[mythtv-users] Many new dvd's not working
linux at thehobsons.co.uk
Tue Jul 13 07:11:01 UTC 2010
Brian Wood wrote:
> > I wonder if this is something the EFF would get behind:
>> Just a thought!
>And a good one at that.
I've dropped them an email.
>What we need is some sort of verification suite,
>as others have pointed out, because unless we
>can point to the specific
>problem it's not likely to get solved.
More importantly, if we were to try and use
consumer protection laws to get a title taken off
the shelves, then the relevant enforcement body
would want to know exactly WHY the disk could not
be called a "DVD". Just waving hands in air and
saying "it won't play" isn't good enough if there
is a reply available along the lines of "most
players cope - why can't it be your player at
I had a quick search yesterday. Phillips have a
verification suite - it costs ¤500 for a licence
(ouch) and I didn't go as far as looking into
what that allows you to use it for or wether it
includes any upgrades.
I also found this FAQ from Sonic :
It says :
>To avoid this uncertainty, professionally
>produced, commercially released DVD titles
>(feature films, music video, etc.) are generally
>tested with the MEI Verifier, a software
>application developed by Matsushita Electronic
>Industries (the parent company of Panasonic and
>other leading consumer electronics brands). The
>Verifier has been in use since the specification
>itself was finalized, and has long been regarded
>as the benchmark for DVD compliancy.
The only hints I found suggest that it's only
available to DVD licensees, and it costs a mind
boggling amount. So I guess that unless someone
knows someone with it that is prepared to use it
(a bit like asking a turkey to vote for
Christmas) then that's not available to us.
>The industry is still behaving as if CSS was a
>viable "protection" system. Since you can't
>observe the "problem" unless
>you first break CSS, we have a problem, unless
>we can find a non-CSS DVD that exhibits the
>problem, which is unlikely.
>The first thing I would do is move any work on
>the "problem" out of a country infected by the
Indeed, and it's also rather borderline for discussion on this list.
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