[mythtv-users] Design a low cost, dual tuner, one box solution.

Another Sillyname anothersname at googlemail.com
Sun Jul 11 23:11:06 UTC 2010

On 11 July 2010 23:12, Nick Rout <nick.rout at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Nick Rout <nick.rout at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Another Sillyname
>> <anothersname at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11 July 2010 22:08, Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:46:00 +0100, mikep at randomtraveller.org.uk said:
>>>>> EIT may be enough for your users, but ...  you only get a couple of days
>>>>> of data.
>>>> I get 8 days' EIT data, and I'm in the UK. What makes you think that
>>>> only two days will be available?
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>>> Mike
>>> EIT gives you 8 days of data in the UK and it also, in theory at
>>> least, updates now and next in real time for scheduling changes
>>> (although I've yet to see ITV get schedule changes right!!).
>>> I get 8 days EIT for both DVB-T and DVB-S without problems.
>>> The reason for no internet access needed is a lot of people who are
>>> sight impaired are older and therefore are often non computer users,
>>> if the box is not effectively 'self contained' it makes it too complex
>>> for the likely user base.
>> there have been threads before over the years about "let's make/design
>> a consumer level mythtv box". They usually founder on the fact that
>> everyone wants different things in their myth machine, and that you'll
>> never make something cheaper than the consumer electronics
>> manufacturers can!
>> Of course in the UK market it might be easier, you basically have
>> DVB-S or DVB-T.
>> By the way another reason for the internet connection in such a box is
>> for ease of updates.
> Oh and the other thought that occurs: many of those potential
> customers may not have hdmi or dvi inputs on their TVs, and may not
> want to upgrade. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find an
> accelerated (read vdpau) card with analogue (composite, svideo or
> component) outputs.
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I realise that there is no panacea solution, however the other side of
the equation is there's currently no box that address's this need
(certainly existing PVR's don't), the design is not meant to compete
with existing consumer grade products, it's a different market. What
it is meant to do is provide a customised solution for the lowest cost
effective price.  If the people who did the brief decide the unit
isn't cost effective that's their decision to make, neither yours nor
mine, however what I want to do is put forward the best proposition
that meets the design brief for the best price possible.

As to requiring internet for updates you're wrong as a OTA update
mechanism has provisionally been made available as far as I


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