[mythtv-users] Ceton InfiniTV 4

jedi jedi at mishnet.org
Tue Aug 31 12:57:43 UTC 2010

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:52:57PM -0400, Phil Bridges wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Brian Wood <beww at beww.org> wrote:
> > On Monday, August 30, 2010 07:31:23 pm Phil Bridges wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:59 PM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >    Frankly, I would never be able to trust the cable company not to screw
> >> > me over at some later date. I would rather have an output that I know I
> >> > can always record from even if it is a degraded one.
> >>
> >> Pretty sure the only way that's going to happen is if you use an antenna.
> >
> > For some of us that's not an option, unless I want CBS.
> >
> > I'm not necessarily advocating satellite here, just pointing out that DISH and DirectTV are at least consistent continent-
> > wide, unlike cable providers where the same operator might be different even in adjacent markets.
> >
> > At least you know what you are going to get, with less chance of weekly changes.
> >
> > My fear with my DISH receiver is that the forces of evil will be able to get the component outputs disabled, but they
> > would have to deal with a LOT more unhappy older set users than a single CATV franchise might, so they might be less
> > inclined to do so.
> >
> > I have both CATV and DISH, if I want to be as certain as possible that a recording will happen I go with DISH, except
> > during a major snowstorm of course, but in that case both providers are unreliable, and even my electrical power is iffy. I
> > only have UPS capacity for an hour or so.
> >
> > In my experience  the satellite providers seem to be more Myth-friendly than most cable systems. Decrypting premium
> > channels is not a problem, whatever you pay for comes out in the clear as HDMI, component or composite (automatically
> > converted to SD). You can even get an (SD) RF output. I've not encountered SOC (yet).
> >
> > Granted you need an STB (receiver, IRD, whatever you want to call it), but nothing's perfect.
> >
> I don't see what the massive difference is between using a satellite
> STB and a CATV STB.  Sure, with DirecTV you can control the box with a
> serial connection, but you can at least change channels on a lot of
> cable boxes with firewire.
> That said, there's no guarantee form either option that your component
> output is going to be active.  The post I was responding to wanted an
> output they could "can always record from."  No guarantee of that with
> cable or satellite; ergo, my response that the only guarantee of
> recording anything is to record the available channels they can get
> OTA.

    It is highly unlikely that all analog outputs would be completely
disabled. There are too many old farts out there that simply don't know 
well enough to use HDMI. Plus the "degraded" ones are likely not considered
any sort of "threat".

    There is really no history of cable companies messing with analog
outputs. Whereas there is quite an established history of cable companies
messing with the digital ones.

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