[mythtv-users] Question about Storage groups...

Wed Apr 14 15:03:41 UTC 2010

Thanks again for the help.  I'll go back and look at a distro that has
myth as I don't want to be on the cutting edge.

Thanks
Steve

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Nasa <nasa01 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ----- "Steven Dennis" <nzdreamer55 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > > Steve
>> > Have you read here?
>> >
>> > http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html
>>
>> I have looked at this, however I'm a little confused on how to use
>> subversion.  I understand the theory in that it only down loads and
>> updates new stuff, however in practice I'm not sure how to do this.
>>
> Read here:
>
> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/
>
> More on subversion is here (although you don't need this level of detail):
>
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
>
>
>> I understand how to flush out a tarball file.  Kind of get how to
>> compile a program, not to sure how to use subversion to "get" stuff.
>> The HOWTO file does not really address this, only states that this is
>> the most up to date way of getting it.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Also, to add a directory to the default group make sure
>> > you highlight it then press select/enter and enter
>> > the path in the box that appears.  Read about Storage
>> > groups here:
>> >
>> > http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1
>>
>> Thanks this link helps a lot.  From what I have learned so far it
>> seems that installing ubuntu first then adding mythtv would be the
>> best way, however a little harder than a distribution specific
>> method.
>
> 'Best' is totally subjective, each of the distributions add thier own
> *flavor* to mythtv, which you won't get out of svn.  SVN provides a
> means of staying at the bleeding edge of mythtv development.  Unless
> you are interested in learning about myth development; interested in
> learning how to compile and install on your own; or have need/want a
> special feature that is only in svn -- then a distro is for you.  Your
> original question about storage groups isn't going to change because
> your changed how you installed myth.  So if your only reason for looking
> at svn is because you were having trouble with storage groups, go back
> to a distro and work on entering a directory in the SG (which I gave you
> a link too in my first reply).
>
> BTW: to compile myth you will need to have an environment setup to compile
> software...  ie: you will need things like a compiler (gcc), appropriate
> development libraries (usually identified with 'devel' in thier names), make,
> etc.
>
> BTW2: Ubuntu is just on linux flavor -- there are many others and you could
> install myth on pretty much any of them.
>
>
>>
>> When partitioning the drive is a swap partition needed or
>> recommended?
>>  I just went to my first Linux gathering locally and the speaker
>> noted
>> that a swap partition isn't needed as typical RAM is so large (Did I
>> just start on a controversial topic?)
>
> What exactly is "typical RAM"?  an ION machine with 1G of ram seems pretty
> "typical"...  Given that such a machine shares its memory with the video
> system, swap space is going to be needed.
>
> Some applications (don't believe this is true for most linux apps - but is for
> older windows apps) expect the system to have swap and won't operate correctly
> without it.
>
> Swap space is also used by the system to place dump files if something happens
> with the system.  So no swap, no way to debug the kernel if it crashes.  For most
> users this isn't an issue as they wouldn't know how to recover said file any ways (I
> would have to research how to do this as I don't know how to do it myself).
>
> As far as how much swap space is needed -- the old guideline of 2x the installed
> memory isn't necessarly applicable to a number of current machines.  If your system
> has enough physical memory to meet the requirements of running your system, then swap
> space allocated should be large enough to accommodate the afore mentioned dump file.
>
> Nasa
>
>>
>> Steve
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On 4/13/10, Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com> wrote:
>> > > > On 4/13/2010 17:24, Steven Dennis wrote:
>> > > > > The storage group set up has never worked for me. I'm not sure
>> if
>> > > > > these groups are suppose to be directories on my drive or if
>> they
>> > > just
>> > > > > are an internal way that mythtv organizes things.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Storage groups are MythTV's way of telling a backend where your
>> > > content is.
>> > > > You can add one or more directories to a storage group, and
>> MythTV
>> > > will
>> > > > automatically load balance between then when recording.  The
>> > > directory must
>> > > > be readable and writable by the backend, and frontends can
>> stream
>> > > from the
>> > > > backend if they do not have access to those files.
>> > > >
>> > > > > If I press esc to leave the setup it says that there are not
>> any
>> > > > > groups created and asks if I want to correct this.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > You need to add at least one directory to the Default group for
>> > > MythTV to be
>> > > > able to record anything.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Default
>> > > > > LiveTV
>> > > > > (Create DB Baackups group)
>> > > > > (Create new group)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > The fact that you do not have any of the groups MythVideo now
>> uses
>> > > listed
>> > > > means you are trying to install 0.21.  Please consider using
>> > > 0.23-fixes, or
>> > > > at least 0.22-fixes instead.
>> > > > _______________________________________________
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