[mythtv-users] Movie Times Plugin outside North America

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:
> On 11/03/2009 02:35 AM, Ma Begaj wrote:
>>
>> 2009/11/3 Michael T. Dean:
>>
>>>
>>> On 11/02/2009 10:40 PM, Nick Rout wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ma Begaj wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be nice to be able to (on click) download and show movie
>>>>> details like in mythvideo's ttvdb.
>>>>> Integrating look and feel of mythvideo in this plugin would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And/or then interfacing with apple movie trailers to see a trailer...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, doing so would be a violation of the Apple website ToS
>>> unless
>>> "interfacing" meant allowing you to hit a button that brought up
>>> MythBrowser
>>> pointed to the Apple trailers website and let you use their web interface
>>> to
>>> find and view the trailer.  (The only "interface" we're allowed to do is
>>> make it easy for you to bring up a browser to use Apple's HTML interface
>>> to
>>> access the site.)
>>
>> even xml feeds like http://www.apple.com/trailers/home/xml/current.xml??\
>>
>
> My understanding is that those XML feeds are not meant for public
> consumption. They're instead accessing the data server that Apple is using
> to create the HTML web site. This isn't to say that they are actively trying
> to prevent access--I'm sure they allow Apple developers using the Apple
> SDK's or some Apple service key or Apple ID or whatever to access the feed
> when developing applications for Apple products like the iPhone or whatever.
> However, since there's no specific ToS for the XML feed, and since the XML
> feed is served as part of the same web site that includes the "main" Apple
> web site, it seems to be covered under the same ToS.
>
>> because (at least my) browser cannot do anything with this xml.
>>
>> how should someone access these
>
> Apple seems to want you and your browser to go to
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/ .
>
> Feel free to read the Apple ToS at
> http://www.apple.com/legal/terms/site.html . Specifically of interest are:
>
> -----
> Your Use of the Site
> You may not use any “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider” or other
> automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology, or any similar or
> equivalent manual process, to access, acquire, copy or monitor any portion
> of the Site or any Content, or in any way reproduce or circumvent the
> navigational structure or presentation of the Site or any Content, to obtain
> or attempt to obtain any materials, documents or information through any
> means not purposely made available through the Site. Apple reserves the
> right to bar any such activity.
> ...
> You agree that you will not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or
> disproportionately large load on the infrastructure of the Site or Apple’s
> systems or networks, or any systems or networks connected to the Site or to
> Apple
> ...
> You may not forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to
> disguise the origin of any message or transmittal you send to Apple on or
> through the Site or any service offered on or through the Site. You may not
> pretend that you are, or that you represent, someone else, or impersonate
> any other individual or entity.
> -----
>
> And note that Apple /has/ recently changed their trailers page such that
> they only allow certain applications (such as Apple QuickTime) to download
> the trailers. Therefore, the "You may not forge headers or otherwise
> manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any message or
> transmittal," portion is especially relevant.
>
> See, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/393292#393292
> .
>
> Mike

I take it you are saying then that (eg) the xbmc apple trailers plugin
violates apple's terms?