[mythtv-users] Schedule conflicted with itself causing show to not record

Kevin Kuphal kkuphal at gmail.com
Fri Jan 30 19:49:29 UTC 2009

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean at thirdcontact.com
> > wrote:
>> On 01/30/2009 01:45 PM, Allen Edwards wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Brad DerManouelian wrote:
>>>> On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Marc Randolph wrote:
>>>>  On 1/30/09, Allen Edwards wrote:
>>>>> 2) Stop recording the first show when the second show starts and start
>>>>>> recording the second show
>>>>> I believe Myth's default is intended to be #2.  At least, that is what
>>>>> I recall that the wording implies when you configure how much time
>>>>> before and after to record... the comment at the bottom says something
>>>>> to the effect of "Extra time (before and after) are ignored when
>>>>> back-to-back recordings occur."
>>>> This is when you use soft-padding (the global setting). If you set hard
>>>> padding (on the individual rule) it will assume the extra time is part
>>>> of
>>>> the rule and you really want it all the time.
>>> I put the pad in the individual rule. I guess that is my problem...
>> No, actually you scheduled correctly for several reasons:
>>  a) the maximum for the "Time to record before start/past end of show (in
>> seconds)" can be set to a maximum of 1800 seconds (30 minutes).
>>  b) the "Time to record before start/past end of show (in seconds)" is
>> designed for a completely different purpose
>>  c) the above description of the "Time to record before start/past end of
>> show (in seconds)" is a naive simplification.  The time will be completely
>> ignored if you have 2 back-to-back recordings--even if they're on different
>> channels as it's a capture card start up/shut down capability (and Myth will
>> use the same capture card--technically, the most preferred input--if
>> possible).  The only time this isn't true is when you specify:
>> Avoid back to back recordings from different channels
>> If set, the scheduler will avoid assigning shows from different channels
>> to the same card if their end time and start time match. This will be
>> allowed when necessary in order to resolve conflicts.
>> Which is there to placate people who believe that Myth should read their
>> minds.  It has the wonderful placebo effect of making people think Myth just
>> does the right thing and they seldom see the issues that are caused by their
>> refusing to just do conflict resolution/tell Myth what to do.
>> It's really not that hard to click on the Upcoming Recordings page in
>> MythWeb once every 2 weeks and fix any conflicts listed.
>> Mike
> I have removed my special rule and set end late to 0 relying on my general
> setting of 300 seconds and that should take care of it until I get to a show
> and get to hear "and the winner is" and it stops recording.  At that point,
> the knowledge of who won will be replaced by a sexy voice explaining how
> myth is ruining her life.
> But the idea that you can check conflicts every 2 weeks is naive.  You
> really have to check every time you add a show.
> That said, I don't see any technical reason why myth could not have
> actually recorded what I wanted as it did not require the tuner to switch
> channels.  It would just have required myth to record one tuner twice.

It *could* have, but that feature does not exist and instead it did exactly
what you told it to do: Record this show for X time + 20 minutes which
introduced a conflict with the following show which was told to record at
the same time.

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