[mythtv-users] IPTV

belcampo belcampo at zonnet.nl
Tue Jan 20 11:25:34 UTC 2009


Jasper Stolte wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:20 AM, belcampo <belcampo at zonnet.nl 
> <mailto:belcampo at zonnet.nl>> wrote:
> 
>     Jos Hoekstra wrote:
> 
>         belcampo schreef op 19-1-2009 17:51:
> 
>             Jasper Stolte wrote:
> 
>                 Well, IPTV should be around 3-4 Mbit/s per channel,
>                 while DVB-T is about that same bandwidth for 3-4
>                 channels. So IPTV should be superior to DVB-T in image
>                 quality.
> 
>             First take a look as adviced, before you invest any
>             time/money. I'm almost 100% sure you'll be very
>             disaappointed by the quality.
>              Satellite and cable should be still better than
> 
>                 that. I dont really want to have a satellite dish on my
>                 balcony though, and unfortunately UPC screws up the
>                 cable option for me..
> 
>                 Greetz,
>                 Jasper
> 
>                  On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, belcampo
>                 <belcampo at zonnet.nl <mailto:belcampo at zonnet.nl>
>                 <mailto:belcampo at zonnet.nl <mailto:belcampo at zonnet.nl>>>
>                 wrote:
> 
>                    Jasper Stolte wrote:
> 
>                        Hi guys,
> 
>                        I'd like to build a HTPC with digital TV through
>                 MythTV.
>                        Unfortunately my cable provider (UPC in the
>                 Netherlands) makes
>                        this impossible for me by using Nagravision 2
>                 encryption. Now
>                        I'm thinking of switching to ADSL based IPTV. I
>                 can't really
>                        find any good documentation on whether this will
>                 work for me.
>                        I've got access to KPN or Tele2 ADSL+IPTV. Any
>                 pointers on where
>                        to look on how to get one of those working, or of
>                 course to
>                        information why it will not work?
> 
>                    Maybe first take a look at the quality KPN delivers
>                 in one of their
>                    shops. It's terrible low-quality mpeg2 format. Don't
>                 know for Tele2,
>                    but reading some forums a lot of people also complain
>                 about
>                    delivered quality. DVB-T eventually with a small
>                 outdoor antenna is
>                    of reasonable quality. And satellite DVB-S of course
> 
> 
>         KPN delivers 2Mbit streams for Digitenne and 4 Mbit for IPTV,
>         Tele2 probably offers something with about same specs. IPTV
>         looks quite a bit better than digitenne(because of better source
>         and better scaler, the VIP1960 is connected with HDMI and
>         digitenne with scart).
>         As far as I know nobody has been able to get the signal decoded
>         on a box other that the standard STB with IPTV from KPN, dunno
>         bout Tele2.
> 
>     Other then specs, seeing is believing, I do have a 19' TV with
>     build-in DVB-T tuner and it looks A LOT BETTER then what I've seen
>     in their Shop from IPTV, it was horrible. 
> 
>  
> There can be many reasons why you had this experience. It seems to me 
> that they probably messed up their IPTV setup in the store somehow. 
> Either way, IPTV does not use inferior technology to Digitenne so with 
> double the bandwidth IPTV should provide superior image quality.
Have you actually seen the quality of IPTV ?
> 
> 
>         Regards,
> 
>         Jos
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