[mythtv-users] time zone with distant frontend

Robert McNamara robert.mcnamara at gmail.com
Wed Dec 30 01:08:48 UTC 2009

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Eric Sharkey <eric at lisaneric.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Robert McNamara
> <robert.mcnamara at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We are not your slaves.  The code is open, decide what you want to do
>> with that.  Until you start writing checks, writing code, and most
>> importantly, writing checks to lawyers, you'll get code written
>> according to the whims, ethics, and personal feelings of the people
>> doing the actual work.
> Right, and that's the way it should be.
>> This is nothing new-- expect a strong stance
>> against anything that would be considered theft, a violation of law,
>> or actionable to continue.
> Ok, can you seriously say with a straight face that allowing the
> backend/frontend combo to function properly when the backend and
> frontend have different TZ configurations would qualify as theft or a
> violation of the law in any jurisdiction?
> I think what Brian was reacting to in this discussion was the fact
> that bringing up rights issues in this discussion is really quite off
> topic.

Nobody cast aspersions about *anyone*, merely mentioned it as a
possible (and IMHO, likely (preceding opinion is my own and not that
of the MythTV team)) scenario for most people trying to operate
mythboxes across timezones.  I read Mike's comment as a "I have yet to
hear of anyone doing this for reasons that sound lawful, legitimate,
and ethical to me, but when I do, I'll be happy to help them."  The
ensuing response reads as very hostile and aggressive to me.  It's
been done before today, and once again-- comparing the devs to nazis
is nobody's idea of reasonable.

> If you don't want to spend time working on a feature, that's fine.
> Just say, "I don't want to do it.".  But to suggest that something
> shouldn't be done because under some extremely unlikely scenario
> someone might possibly break the law is somewhat offensive dye to the
> presumption of guilt on the part of the user.
> Eric

Likewise, there is a presumption by users complaining most vehemently
about this issue that it is in *any* way a simple fix, or that they
understand what it would take to fix it is foolhardy at best and
offensive at worst.  So how about we meet in the middle?  It's not an
easy fix to go to UTC across the board, it's a boatload of work, and
as a result, nobody wants to do it.  And so, in the end, as they


...patches welcome.


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