[mythtv-users] Suddenly MythTV refuses to use both tuners [SOLVED]

[Carl-Magnus Björkell]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Carl-Magnus Björkell 
> <carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi 
> <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi>> wrote:
> 
>     Kevin Kuphal wrote:
>      > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Carl-Magnus Björkell
>      > <carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi
>     <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi>
>      > <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi
>     <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Mark Knecht wrote:
>      >      > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Carl-Magnus Björkell
>      >      > <carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi
>     <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi>
>      >     <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi
>     <mailto:carl-magnus.bjorkell at pp.inet.fi>>> wrote:
>      >      >> Hi,
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >> I'm using MythTV on a openSUSE box, and upgrade to the
>     newest mythtv
>      >      >> packages (packaged by packman) fairly often. I have two DVB-C
>      >     tuners,
>      >      >> one which is equipped with a CI-reader for my Conax card
>     to watch
>      >      >> encrypted channels.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Myth has been conffed to use the unencrypted card whenever
>      >     possible when
>      >      >> recording, so that the "better" card is free for live-tv
>     if needed.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> A couple of weeks ago I started noticing that while one
>     of the
>      >     tuners
>      >      >> where recording, I could not get a channel lock with the
>     other
>      >     tuner.
>      >      >> Now I would think that this would be related to signal
>     strength,
>      >     were it
>      >      >> not for one thing: All recordings have also started to be
>      >     scheduled ONLY
>      >      >> on the Conax-capable card. Both tuners work fine if the
>     other is not
>      >      >> active (I've tried changing inputs etc, and it works).
>      >      >>
>      >      >> AFAIK no configuration has been changed, and this setup has
>      >     worked like
>      >      >> a charm unchanged since the release of 0.21 (with the
>     exception of a
>      >      >> change from XML-tv parsed programdata to EIT scans.)
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Has anyone had any similar problems lately, and more
>      >     importantly, does
>      >      >> anyone have any idea about what could be causing this?
>      >      >>
>      >      >> As I said I've been using Packmans packages. The current
>     version
>      >     I have is:
>      >      >> MythTV Branch    : branches/release-0-21-fixes
>      >      >> Library API      : 0.21.20080304-1
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Greets,
>      >      >> -Calle
>      >      >
>      >      > I had a very similar problem. It turned out that my second
>     tuner was
>      >      > constantly recording Live TV and therefore became
>     unavailable at any
>      >      > time to record programs. It seems an unfortunate default
>     setting in
>      >      > Myth is to not show Live TV recordings in the media
>     library so we
>      >      > didn't even notice this was happening until my wife asked
>     why we had
>      >      > no disk space when we only had a few hours of recordings.
>      >      >
>      >      > You can look at your disk space usage or set the menu in
>     the media
>      >      > library to show Live TV.
>      >      >
>      >      > Probably you don't have the same problem but it's easy to
>     find if
>      >     you do.
>      >      >
>      >      > Take care,
>      >      > Mark
>      >
>      >     Thanks for the suggestion. It was, just as you said, a long
>     shot, and it
>      >     doesn't seem to be the problem. I only have LiveTV recordings
>     of shows I
>      >     have actually watched, and I have plenty of free disk space.
>      >
>      >     Checking the encoder status in mythweb also gives me:
>      >     Encoder 1 is local on juggernaut and is not recording.
>      >     Encoder 2 is local on juggernaut and is not recording.
>      >
>      >     Keep the ideas coming :)
>      >
>      >
>      > Do you have them configured in an input group which would
>     instruct Myth
>      > that they cannot be used at the same time similar to a tuner and
>     s-video
>      > connection to the same STB?
>      >
>      > Kevin
>      >
> 
>     Not knowingly no, but it could be possible I suppose. I just checked the
>     myth-setup screens, and couldn't find anything about input groups. Where
>     can I tinker with stuff like that?
> 
>  
> I think it is under Capture Cards or Input Connections.  I'd have to 
> poke around myself to find it.  But it should be in one of those places, 
> my gut says Input Connections.
>  
> Kevin

...and there it was. I totally missed that there was a "Next" button on 
the input connections screen. My cards had indeed somehow been put into 
the same input group, just as you suggested. I turned it back to 
"Generic" now and, at least at first glance, it seems to be working.

Thanks alot for the help! :)

-Calle