[mythtv-users] mythtv-users Digest, Vol 60, Issue 137

Matthew Schroeder blaupolisboxen at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 25 15:46:18 UTC 2008


--- mythtv-users-request at mythtv.org wrote:

> Send mythtv-users mailing list submissions to
> 	mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> 	http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> 	mythtv-users-request at mythtv.org
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	mythtv-users-owner at mythtv.org
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of mythtv-users digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Re: HOW TO: Early boot backend server from frontend (John Veness)
>    2. Re: Pause on screen display box (John Veness)
>    3. Re: Second mythbackend process on slave backend (John Veness)
>    4. Re: Missing premiere channels (Christopher Brüning)
>    5. Foiled by lirc - yet again (Phill Edwards)
>    6. Re: What's the practical limit on capture cards? (Dan Ritter)
>    7. Re: Am I on crack (John Veness)
>    8. Re: I set up my MythTV system the hard way! (barbex)
>    9. Re: Am I on crack (Ronald Frazier)
>   10. Re: Foiled by lirc - yet again (Ronald Frazier)
>   11. Re: undefined reference to glXGetProcAddress (Stephen Robertson)
>   12. Re: Foiled by lirc - yet again (Phill Edwards)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:23:05 +0000
> From: John Veness <John.Veness.myth at pelago.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] HOW TO: Early boot backend server from
> 	frontend
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <47E8D289.1070907 at pelago.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Bill wrote:
> > Reposting this with a different title and some new info.
> > 
> > I've come up with a way to send a WOL packet to my master backend
> server 
> > almost immediately after the frontend boots.  This gains about 15-20
> seconds 
> > on the backend boot time, compared to using an init.d script to wake
> the 
> > server.   This way the frontend and server boot together, and the
> frontend 
> > does not have to wait long for the backend to be up and running.
> > 
> > I use gpxe on a USB key modified to send a WOL packet.  The frontend
> first 
> > boots gpxe off the USB key, then continues a normal boot from the
> harddrive. 
> > Normally gxpe will try to boot off the network, but I disable this
> portion 
> > of the code and use it strictly for sending the WOL packet to the
> backend.
> > 
> > The wol code is now available on contrib/wakeonlan of the gpxe code
> base 
> > (http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/download).  The file wol.c needs to be
> put in 
> > src/util and wol.h in src/include/usr.  The make scripts will
> automatically 
> > generate the rules to build wol.c.  I can post my main.c, but
> essentially I 
> > comment out the code that calls shell() and autoboot() and then add a
> call 
> > to wakeup_server with the mac address as the parameter.
> > 
> > I've only tested the code with the e1000 driver, but it is generic and
> 
> > should work with other drivers.
> > 
> > Note that gxpe has a limited set of ethernet drivers, and you may want
> to 
> > check if your ethernet chip is supported first.  If your using the
> e1000 
> > driver, there are a few bugs when using it with a 82573 (and likely
> with 
> > many other intel chips) that I have posted a fix to the etherboot
> mailing 
> > list, but can also send that to those in need.
> > 
> >   Bill
> 
> Nice. How long does the gpxe bit of the bootup take?
> 
> Is there any way to stick this on the hard disk (maybe on a different 
> partition and some kind of boot manager), rather than needing a USB
> drive?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> -- 
> John Veness, MythTV user, UK, DVB-T
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:27:04 +0000
> From: John Veness <John.Veness.myth at pelago.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Pause on screen display box
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <47E8D378.9070701 at pelago.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> David Fishburn wrote:
> > Myth 0.21
> > 
> > I have been looking at various themes like Metallurgy:
> > http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html
> > 
> > If you look at that page, and look at any of the screen shots that
> > show the TV show pause the pause dialog expands across the bottom of
> > the screen and has a progress meter visually indicating how much of
> > the show is left:
> > http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy/metallurgy_osd1.png
> > 
> > No matter which theme I choose this dialog is in the top right of the
> > screen.  It has no progress meter, and for long shows it often doesn't
> > fit in the box and has to wrap.  It is solid blue and blots out the
> > entire box it fills.
> > 
> > Under setup appearances, I have been changing various things to see if
> > it maybe related.  Every change I make has had zero affect.
> > 
> > Does anyone know how I can get what is displayed in the png vs what I
> see?
> > 
> > My screen resolution is 1080i (1920 × 1080) 16:9 aspect ratio
> selected.
> > 
> > TIA,
> > Dave
> 
> Are you sure you're changing the OSD theme, not the UI theme? It's not 
> in Appearance but in TV Settings.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> -- 
> John Veness, MythTV user, UK, DVB-T
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:31:17 +0000
> From: John Veness <John.Veness.myth at pelago.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Second mythbackend process on slave
> 	backend
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <47E8D475.3040906 at pelago.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Chris Pinkham wrote:
> > MythTV 0.21 fires off another
> > instance of mythbackend to generate the preview pixmap for a
> recording.
> > This new copy doesn't run the scheduler or talk to tuners or anything
> > like that, it just runs the preview generator code.
> 
> Out of interest, any particular reason you didn't make a new binary - 
> mythprevgen or something - for this? Up until now multiple mythbackend 
> processes on one machine is an error condition, and so people with 
> monitoring scripts would need to modify them.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> -- 
> John Veness, MythTV user, UK, DVB-T
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:34:08 +0100
> From: Christopher Brüning <moonkuh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Missing premiere channels
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <1206441248.5827.2.camel at TOOL>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Are you sure that "scan encrypted channels" is checked?
> There is an option where you can say mythtv that he don't scan encrypted
> channels
> 
> Am Montag, den 24.03.2008, 00:28 +0100 schrieb Gujs:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I just installed mythtv 0.21 from mythbuntu repository. I have astra
> > 19.2E and hotbird 13.0E. I scanned astra and have missing some
> premiere
> > direct and premiere sport channels. I have Premiere sport portal and
> one
> > premiere direct channel where the info about movies runs. I tried to
> > scan those transponders alone and mythtv finds just the other channels
> > on that transponder.
> > 
> > Does mythtv handle premiere direct PPV channels? Do I have to insert
> > them by myself somehow?
> > 
> > Please help me solve this thing!
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> > Gregor
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > mythtv-users mailing list
> > mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:43:06 +1100
> From: "Phill Edwards" <philledwards at gmail.com>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Foiled by lirc - yet again
> To: "MythTV Users List" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<c92a75980803250343t478947abu9a6399cc0002fbdb at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> In my experience, one of the hardest things to get working in MythTV
> has always been infrared remote control. I recently gave up on my
> serial port receiver as it was generating errors and had intermittent
> issues where it would just stop working, then start again. Intervals
> between intermissions got shorter and shorter until it became
> unuseable.
> 
> So I bought an MCE remote off eBay which arrived today. It's none of
> the ones shown on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote. It
> shows up in /var/log/messages as:
> 
> Mar 25 21:13:58 elm kernel: usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using
> uhci_hcd and address 2
> Mar 25 21:13:59 elm kernel: usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> Mar 25 21:13:59 elm kernel: input: HOLTEK USB To PS2 Devic as
> /class/input/input5
> Mar 25 21:13:59 elm kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HOLTEK USB
> To PS2 Devic] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1
> Mar 25 21:13:59 elm kernel: input: HOLTEK USB To PS2 Devic as
> /class/input/input6
> Mar 25 21:13:59 elm kernel: input,hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Mouse
> [HOLTEK USB To PS2 Devic] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1
> 
> My first plan was to run irrecord to create a lircd.conf file. But
> when I ran this I got characters sent to the screen rather than dots.
> For example, if I held down button 2 for a few seconds, irrecord
> displayed lots of 2s rather than lots of dots. I've never seen this
> before and I presume it's something to do with the USB device being
> detected as "USB HID v1.10 Keyboard".
> 
> Does anyone how I get it detected as a "normal" remote control so I
> can create a lircd.conf file? I'm concerned that if I just leave it
> detected as a keyboard then I won't be able to use all of the buttons
> (such as REW, FWD, PLAY, RECORD, Guide etc).
> 
> Regards,
> Phill
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:25:15 -0400
> From: Dan Ritter <dsr-myth at tao.merseine.nu>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] What's the practical limit on capture
> 	cards?
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <20080325112515.GP17509 at tao.merseine.nu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:34:12PM -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
> > So long as all of the capture cards have hardware encoders, you will
> run out of 
> > slots before you run out of cpu power, a full ATSC stream is only
> about 
> > 2MBytes/second which even 10 at the same time is pretty simple for
> just about 
> > any recent desktop machine to handle.
> 
> And if you can use USB or ethernet-attached ATSC recorders, you
> will run out of disk bandwidth first. When I have 2 HD programs
> coming from the HDHomeRun, my Athon 3500XP is only 1.2% busy...
> 
> -dsr-
> 
> -- 
> Restore our Constitutional rights.
> 
> http://tao.merseine.nu/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by
> reference.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:26:25 +0000
> From: John Veness <John.Veness.myth at pelago.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Am I on crack
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <47E8E161.9030701 at pelago.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Skitals wrote:
> > I didn't read the entire thread because I got tired of all the
> bickering,
> > but I do agree you should be able to keep LiveTV going while you do
> > something else on the frontend. If I recall correctly Windows MCE does
> this
> > more or less by keeping the live tv window in a picture in picture box
> if
> > you back out to the main menu while watching tv. It's no different
> than
> > keeping the stream going in a pip when you enter the program guide.
> Seem
> > kind of silly you cant do the same when you want to check the weather,
> read
> > rss feeds, or do whatever else.
> 
> Just to expand this, I've often thought that while watching recorded 
> programs and mythvideo videos (with Internal player). It would be great 
> if a button press could let you get to the menus while keeping the 
> video/audio running (maybe as a small box, or semi-transparent in the 
> background). I often want to schedule recordings or do other maintenance
> 
> work while playing back another recording.
> 
> I think this would take a lot of programming work, though.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> -- 
> John Veness, MythTV user, UK, DVB-T
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:45:09 +0100
> From: barbex <barbex at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] I set up my MythTV system the hard way!
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<d6672f130803250445s27509066t8f654199c7e81c5d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Yes, I had the same feeling when I finally had it all working. All the
> non-geeks around me did not understand why I was so happy about my
> silly computer thing!
> 
> > - I have to figure out permissions between "mythtv" user, "darryl"
> user, and
> > "root".  I am still a little confused by some of this.  Currently,
> "darryl"
> > can launch myth-backend and start mythtv, but "mythtv" user cannot.
> 
> In "Administration" you'll find "Users and groups". There you should
> add the mythtv user to the video group and everything else that looks
> like multimedia.
> 
> 
> > - make it auto-login (to the "mythtv" user?)
> 
> Launch "Login Screen Setup" under the "System -> Administration" menu.
> You'll find a setting to autologin a user after 10 seconds or more.
> 
> >
> > - make it auto-launch MythTV
> >
> Again,  under the "System -> Administration" menu you'll find
> "Sessions" which let you do that.
> 
> 
> 
> Isn't it great to see yourself grow with the project?!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:45:29 -0400
> From: "Ronald Frazier" <ron at ronfrazier.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Am I on crack
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<190410d30803250445p6642a157m169594e8b4a5259d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> >  That sounds great! I hope I can turn it off so my kid doesn't leave
> it
> >  on LiveTV, forget about it, then all my programs expire to make room
> >  for LiveTV all night long. Ok, so mine would never do that, but
> >  someone's would and we all have to hear about it. ;)
> 
> That problem (if it were real) would already exist, because you could
> just as well leave it on live TV, forget to exit, and turn off the TV.
> However, the first thing to get deleted off disk would be the already
> deleted recordings. Next it will go for the oldest LiveTV programs, so
> it would just cycle through reusing the same space on disk, never
> touching your recordings. Your recordings themselves will never
> actually get expired unless it's to make room for other recordings
> you've explicitly scheduled.
> 
> On top of that, theres also the timeout feature, which will stop live
> tv after X minutes of inactivity, and that could just as well apply to
> recording live TV in the background. It's currently a "secret" setting
> with no gui (there's another thread on it), but I think it's useful
> enough that it will hopefully gets its own place in the GUI someday.
> 
> So no, we wouldn't have to hear about it.
> 
> -- 
> Ron
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:52:27 -0400
> From: "Ronald Frazier" <ron at ronfrazier.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Foiled by lirc - yet again
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<190410d30803250452s62858687n9f46b581710e14b5 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> >  For example, if I held down button 2 for a few seconds, irrecord
> >  displayed lots of 2s rather than lots of dots. I've never seen this
> >  before
> 
> Neither have I. Thats odd.
> 
> >  Does anyone how I get it detected as a "normal" remote control so I
> >  can create a lircd.conf file? I'm concerned that if I just leave it
> >  detected as a keyboard then I won't be able to use all of the buttons
> >  (such as REW, FWD, PLAY, RECORD, Guide etc).
> 
> >From reading your message, it doesn't even sound like you tried making
> the config file. You didn't specify an error messages or anything...it
> sounds like you gave up as soon as you saw the 2's instead of dots. If
> thats so, why don't you just go ahead and try and see what happens?
> After you have the conf file created and in the right location,
> restart lirc and use irw to see if it detects all of your keys when
> you press them.
> 
> -- 
> Ron
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:53:24 +0000
> From: "Stephen Robertson" <stephengrobertson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] undefined reference to glXGetProcAddress
> To: "Joe Villari" <joev at pipeline.com>, 	"Discussion about mythtv"
> 	<mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<ba7973f0803250453k99406bfq1b85b4ad8a37aba9 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Joe Villari <joev at pipeline.com> wrote:
> > I did a make distclean, then ran ./configure (still get the the cat:
> /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory error), and now when
> I run make I get:
> >
> >  ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.21.so: undefined reference to
> `glXGetProcAddress'
> >  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> >  make[2]: *** [mythfrontend] Error 1
> >  make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/joev/mythtv-0.21/programs/mythfrontend'
> >  make[1]: *** [sub-mythfrontend] Error 2
> >  make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joev/mythtv-0.21/programs'
> >  make: *** [sub-programs] Error 2
> >
> >  This appears to be a problem with the nVidia driver. according to
>
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/294638?nohighlight=1#294638
> and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15297 I need to:
> >
> >  define GLX_GLXEXT_LEGACY to make the prototype for
> >  glXGetProcAddressARB() visible to the application, and use
> >  glXGetProcAddressARB instead of glXGetProcAddress
> >
> >  How and where do I do this?
> >
> >  Joe
> 
> I had the same glXGetProc.... error on Ubuntu 6.06 and I upgraded my
> nvidia-glx driver package and that solved it for me.
> 
> Cheers
> Stephen
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:59:59 +1100
> From: "Phill Edwards" <philledwards at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Foiled by lirc - yet again
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<c92a75980803250459g469da9f9mbf014444a2814863 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> > From reading your message, it doesn't even sound like you tried making
> >  the config file. You didn't specify an error messages or
> anything...it
> >  sounds like you gave up as soon as you saw the 2's instead of dots.
> If
> >  thats so, why don't you just go ahead and try and see what happens?
> >  After you have the conf file created and in the right location,
> >  restart lirc and use irw to see if it detects all of your keys when
> >  you press them.
> 
> It doesn't let me create a lircd.conf file. This is what I get:
> 
> <snip>
> ......
> It is very important that you press many different buttons and hold them
> down for approximately one second. Each button should generate at least
> one
> dot but in no case more than ten dots of output.
> Don't stop pressing buttons until two lines of dots (2x80) have been
> generated.
> 
> Press RETURN now to start recording.
>
1111111111111111112222222222222222222222223333333333333333333333333334444444444444444444444445irrecord:
> no data for 10 secs, aborting
> irrecord: gap not found, can't continue
> [root at elm ~]#
>
1111111111111111112222222222222222222222223333333333333333333333333334444444444444444444444445555
> </snip>
> 
> Regards,
> Phill
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> 
> End of mythtv-users Digest, Vol 60, Issue 137
> *********************************************
> 


-
Matthew Hager Schroeder
blaupolisboxen at yahoo.com


More information about the mythtv-users mailing list