[mythtv-users] mythwelcome and shutdown/wakeup

[Michelle Dupuis]

There is a script on www.generationd.com which allows mythshutdown to set
the next wakeup time for the EARLIER of: the next scheduled recording, or
the recommended EPG update time.

Very handy!

MD 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Ma Begaj
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:20 PM
> To: Myth TV Users List
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] mythwelcome and shutdown/wakeup
> 
> 2008/1/20, John Veness <John.Veness.myth at pelago.org.uk>:
> > James Hood wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm working on building my first myth box and I'm very 
> impressed with the functionality and quality of the software 
> so far. I have two questions related to the auto 
> shutdown/wakeup feature of mythtv.
> > >
> > > First, does mythbackend take into account the next time it is 
> > > supposed to grab EPG data when it calculates the next 
> wakeup time? I found this post from June 2007 which provides 
> a SetAlarm script that goes through the pain of searching the 
> mythfilldatabase log for the next suggested update time, 
> checks if  it's sooner than when mythbackend wants to wake 
> the box up and uses the closer time as the wakeup time.
> > >
> > > 
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/280050?search_str
> > > ing=acpi;#280050
> > >
> > > I'm hoping that mythbackend does this automatically in 
> 0.20 (or maybe in svn)?
> > >
> > > Second, I noticed on a box that's both a frontend and 
> backend, that mythbackend won't auto-shutdown the box if 
> mythfrontend is running, even if mythfrontend has been 
> sitting idle at the menu screen for a long period of time. 
> I've read about mythwelcome, but as far as I can tell, it 
> seems like more of a workaround. Frankly, the mythwelcome 
> screen is very confusing for someone who doesn't know 
> anything about how myth works, i.e., my wife. To me, the 
> ultimate user friendly experience would be to not have 
> mythwelcome at all, and to have some way for mythbackend to 
> know if the frontend (or any frontend) has been sitting idle 
> at a menu for X number of minutes and initiate shutdown of 
> the box then. I know the coding of that may be more complex, 
> but I think the current scheme surfaces far too much detail 
> to the user.
> > >
> > > I couldn't find any discussion about this in the archives 
> so I hope this isn't something that's already been talked 
> about, but if not, I'd be interested in discussing more 
> user-friendly possibilities. I'm willing to put my money 
> where my mouth is and contribute some code, but I didn't know 
> if there was a good reason why it's implemented the way it is.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > James
> >
> > When I first came across mythwelcome, I too thought that it 
> was a bit 
> > of a kludge. Why does there have to be a separate 
> executable, just to 
> > let the backend know that noone is running the frontend. Couldn't 
> > instead the top-level screen of mythfrontend act as a welcome/idle 
> > screen? Or as you suggest, some sort of idle timer, so it doesn't 
> > matter if the user does not navigate up to the top-level.
> >
> > Anyway, since then I've just accepted things are the way 
> that they are.
> > I've told my wife that she needs to Esc out until it will go no 
> > further, and soon the box will automatically shutdown if 
> it's not recording etc.
> > and it seems acceptable.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John
> 
> I am xscreensaver and a small perl script to handle this. 
> When the screensaver turns black (blank), a perl script is 
> started which kills mythfrontend. there is somewhere on the list here.
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