[mythtv-users] Upgrading to 0.21-fixes on Ubuntu 7.10?

[Nicolas Will]

On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:51 +0100, Mike Dent wrote:
> 2008/8/27 Marc Randolph <mrand at pobox.com>:
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Mike Dent <mcdent at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi, what is my best way to upgrade from  0.21.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 to
> 0.21
> >> fixes on Ubuntu 7.10 ?
> >> Are there some kind of packages upgrade I can use?
> >
> > Hopefully Mario or one of the other maintainers will speak up and
> say
> > if there is an easy way to get the weekly fixes on a 7.10 system.
> 
> Thanks for your reply, nothing back from anybody else so far though.

The Mythbuntu guys only offered MythTV 0.21 for Ubuntu 7.10.

For 0.21-fixes, you have to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10.


> 
> 
> >
> >> I see there is an option in mythubuntu to do some kind of upgrade
> on an existing
> >> Ubuntu box, I'm wondering if this will trash my existing myth
> system running on this box, or
> >> perhaps there is a safer way?
> >
> > I guess this is referring to the option of doing an upgrade to 8.04?
> > Quite a large number of people in the world have successfully
> upgraded
> > to 8.04 - but some people have run into non-trival regressions.
> Many
> > have been addressed since the initial release though.  You could try
> > googling each piece of your hardware to see if people have had
> trouble
> > with it/them on 8.04.

Upgrades of apt-based distros usually are no problem at all, as long as
the quality control is correct.

Ubuntu's quality control is correct, even if it may be a tad below
Debian's.


> 
> Does that mean if I upgraded to 8.04 that the fixes packages are
> readily available then?
> 
> I saw some mention of an upgrade of an existing Ubuntu + myth setup ->
> mythbuntu?

Let's make things clear.

The team maintaining Mythbuntu is the original team maintaining the
MythTV packages in Ubuntu. So no disconnect there.

Mythbuntu = Ubuntu with the MythTV packages available in the official
Ubuntu repositories.

What did the Mythbuntu guys add on top of that?
      * a few config tools (Mythbuntu Control Center, remote config
        stuff)
      * a lot of polishing in the install
      * utility scripts already setup
      * theming from splash to MythTV
      * diskless FE easy deployment
      * a specific live and install CD that will install a MythTV box
        with a lot of ease (and not a Desktop) or run a Frontend without
        install
      * a few other things

http://mythbuntu.org/image/tid/10

Mythbuntu has its own repositories too. They offer 2 things: up-to-date
and tested MythTV 0.21-fixes or MythTV trunk packages.

You can choose to add 0.21-fixes and benefit from regular fixes.

So, all in all, al this allows you to forget about one thing I am
hearing regularly here:

"If it works at any point in type, stop touching it or you are garanteed
to break it."

Proper packaging quality control and a proper package management system
should allow you to upgrade as often as you wish without sweating
bullets.


> Is this possible whilst preserving my existing myth config, database
> etc?

Absolutely. I did, on the FE+BE machine and a few FE machines around it.
The packages have all the good stuff inside to upgrade everything
correctly without bothering you.

So, how do you do it.

Ubuntu 7.10 / MythTV 0.20 -> Ubuntu 8.10 / MythTV 0.21 upgrade
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading

Adding the 0.21-fixes prepared by the Mythbuntu team
http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds

You may be interested in the Mythbuntu-specific tools
sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-control-center

Nico
http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc