[mythtv-users] Let's get our heads straight here on listings solutions
Jay R. Ashworth
jra at baylink.com
Fri Jun 22 17:44:41 UTC 2007
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:48:46PM -0400, Joe Borne wrote:
> OK, I have watched for a few days and I had to chime in here.
Please find the "HTML" knob on your mail client and turn it off; k?
> This idea of getting all TV stations to post their listings is
> deeply flawed because it places the burden or all the work on the
> TV stations and gives them absolutely nothing in return.
Please pay attention to the threads? They *already* do the work, and
they *PAY TRIBUNE MEDIA* for the privilege.
> They have
> ZERO motivation to help us
They want viewers to watch (and record, since Nielsen cares now) their
programs. Our having valid sked data is a perfectly sound motivation.
> and in fact the most powerful of all
> motivations not to - laziness. An effort such as this would require
> HUGE amounts of energy from us and would produce next to zero
> results because the stations get nothing out of it. Now, the folks
> who are discussing ways to get large vendors such as Yahoo, Google,
> Amazon etc involved with the enticement of a commercial opportunity
> are on the right track.
Until *those* vendors decide that their interests aren't ours, as TMS
already has.
> The psychological fact is - every entity, whether an individual or
> corporation is 100% selfishly motivated. Even people who give their
> lives to performing charitable works (yes, even GPL stuff) fall in
> this category because what they do makes them feel spiritually or
> psychologically fulfilled. They are still getting a payoff.
Sure. If you think we don't get that, you haven't been reading all of
every message in these 4 thread, as I have.
> If we want a long term, robust solution that gets better every
> year - find a way for someone to make money, or get a similarly
> satisfying reward doing it. Since corporations produce and control
> this data, and they care not for spiritual needs, appeal to their
> primary motivator - profit.
Wasn't planning to appeal to their better natures.
Was planning to get their software vendors to toss the export feature
in as a selling point -- even if we have to find a way to pay said
vendors to do it -- then make the business case to the stations.
> This is the most effective, and yes _moral_ way of solving this.
> There is nothing more moral than rewarding someone for providing
> something to you that you value, except perhaps being the provider.
Sure.
You're preaching to the choir, you just weren't reading the sheet
music. :-)
Cheers,
-- jra
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