[mythtv-users] ATTENTION: Want to help remove 5C FireWire encryption?

Steven Adeff adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com
Wed Feb 7 16:38:15 UTC 2007

On 2/7/07, Eric Smith <erictsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/7/07, Brian Wood <beww at beww.org> wrote:
> > On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Steven Adeff wrote:
> > > True, it really is the content owners causing the headaches. The funny
> > > thing is though, if say Comcast or Dish or DirecTV refused then one
> > > would think HBO would loose a lot of subscription money. It's too bad
> > > all the content providers don't band together in the name of their
> > > customers and refuse to play by HBO's rules.
> > > Oh wait, right, we're less than 1% of their customers, the rest are
> > > content with the status quo...
> > >
> >
> > But the "content owners" are in fact the cable and satellite owners,
> > as well as the major network owners. Just look at the ownership of
> > any of the major (or even minor) media conglomerates. An individual
> > "content producer" can't get a product to market without selling out
> > the rights to these virtual monopolies who also own the manufacturers
> > producing the equipment.
> >
> > I was going to cite examples but it's not really necessary I'm sure.
> > Time Warner Cable paying HBO a "subscription fee" is just the pot
> > paying the kettle, they just move money around on paper to minimize
> > taxes.
> >
> > Then we have a system where "ignorance of the law is no excuse", but
> > even the authors of those laws can't agree on what they mean.
> >
> > So the folks with the money can do pretty much whatever they want, up
> > to and including outright murder if it's in their financial interest.
> > This is based on the "my  lawyer can beat up your lawyer" theory of
> > who is right.
> Not too long ago I got an update on my STB from time warner and I lost
> FOX over firewire.  I was under the impression that this was one of
> those channels that would be required to be unencrypted so I called TW
> to investigate.  The story I received was that the encryption levels
> had not changed but that certain channels would no longer stream over
> firewire because the firewire stream could not support the emergency
> broadcast signal.  Has any one else run into this?  From the way TW
> made it sound this is a permanent problem and will restrict firewire
> access regardless of if anything ever comes of dropping the 5C
> encryption.

I call B.S. on that, since the firewire sends out the same signal your
box receives and the emergency broadcast signal is sent as part of the
broadcast, not some later setup by the STB. Call them back and demand
they fix FOX so it works over firewire.

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