[mythtv-users] Firewire and 5c
Steven Adeff
adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com
Tue Apr 10 19:27:26 UTC 2007
On 4/10/07, Chris Funk <cfunk30myth at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/10/07, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 4/9/07, Chris Funk <cfunk30myth at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 4/9/07, Craig Partin <cpartin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have been watching the recent threads concerning comcast and
> the
> > > 5c stuff.
> > > > > > > > I decided to check mine (comcast in Northern Colorado) all
> of
> > > the channels
> > > > > > > > say that 5c is off. However I still only receive a few
> channels
> > > over
> > > > > > > > firewire. So i'm assuming that comcast has the box set to
> just
> > > send certain
> > > > > > > > channels out the firewire port??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One more question, and this is way off topic, and hopefully
> not a
> > > legal
> > > > > > > > issue since it's not dealing with cracking 5c. Does anyone
> know
> > > if it is
> > > > > > > > possible to pull recordings off a dct6412 stb's hd? I read a
> huge
> > > thread on
> > > > > > > > avs forums, but it dealt with just doing what myth already
> does
> > > (captureing
> > > > > > > > from firewire) except in windows. There were a few references
> to
> > > getting
> > > > > > > > stuff off the dct's hard drive, but the thread is about a year
> > > old.
> > > > > > > > Not a big deal, just wanted to get HD Sopranos and Entourage
> into
> > > myth from
> > > > > > > > the 6412.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if 5C is off there is nothing else preventing those from being
> > > > > > > streamed via firewire, so it may just be a blip. I know with my
> box
> > > if
> > > > > > > I use the test_mpeg2 CLI utility I have to try it a couple times
> > > > > > > before it starts streaming whereas Myth seems to go through the
> > > proper
> > > > > > > steps to make sure it gets a signal as it has yet to miss a
> > > recording
> > > > > > > this way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you get a resolution to this issue, please post again. If it's
> > > > > > true about 5c in Colorado, tn I will be upgrading my service
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be hesitant to switch, there is no way to determine if this was
> a
> > > > > conscious decision on Comcast's part or just a engineering error
> when
> > > > > they rolled out the last update to the DCT boxes. This may last for
> a
> > > > > year or a month, just be prepared for it to go back to its old ways.
> > > >
> > > > Then I will cancel, and pay only for the time it suited my needs. Its
> > > > not like a cell phone where I sign a contract with early termination
> > > > penalties. While I doubt we are many enough to influence the
> > > > policies, it might be good to have the reason why service was canceled
> > > > on file.
> > >
> > > Well, sorry to get your hopes up. I've spent most of the night playing
> > > with it, and can't seem to get any "premium" channels. I can get
> everything
> > > 2-99 and even several 100's and some 400's and a couple 500's but when i
> try
> > > to get HBO, starz, encore etc. it just drops me back out to the main
> menu.
> > > backend log says :
> > > Firerec: No input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select)
> > >
> > > I did verify again that 5c says off on the cable box.
> > > I've tried it on my master backend and on a slave backend. Both have
> > > different types of Firewire cards, so I don't think it is a card issue.
> > > Possible though I guess.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Did you check the 5C for those channels? It's a per-channel setting.
>
>
> Yeah, I did. Unless i'm missing a step somewhere. Put the stb on the
> channell i'm checking, power off the stb with the remote, and hit the select
> button on the stb.
> I also have an Avermedia A180 hd card. Shouldn't it be able to pick up all
> the digitial channels if there is no 5c as well?
>
> Is it possible I have something screwed up in my setup/config? Given the
> fact that 2-99 all come in fine. Could the STB's just be giving me
> incorrect info in regards to 5c?
5C'd channels may still be encrypted on the line, it just allows the
box to send the signal over the firewire. I don't see why if 5C=0 on
those channels you can't get them over firewire. All I can think is to
try with the test_mpeg2 utility and just keep retrying with it (like I
said, it took me anywhere from 1-10 times for it to work for me, but
eventually it grabbed everything). If this works, perhaps an upgrade
to SVN is in your future.
--
Steve
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