[mythtv-users] Ongoing Fedora YUM Dependency Problems
Andrew Davis
andrew at nccomp.com
Fri Sep 29 17:44:20 UTC 2006
stan wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org
>> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of jack snodgrass
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:51 PM
>> To: andrew at nccomp.com; Discussion about mythtv
>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Ongoing Fedora YUM Dependency Problems
>>
>> On 9/28/06, Andrew Davis <andrew at nccomp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny, just last weekend I did a clean install of FC5 and
>>>
>> installed Myth
>>
>>> and other than some issues with my remote (which are
>>>
>> resolved now), its
>>
>>> 99% working and the underlying FC5 is running w/o issue.
>>>
>> Perhaps your
>>
>>> ranting is about your own installation choices. :)
>>>
>>> Tom Greer wrote:
>>>
>>>> This email is simply a rant... but I need to express my
>>>>
>> frustration,
>>
>>>> so I'm begging forgiveness in advance.
>>>>
>>>> I've been using MythTV for over a year now. I originally tried to
>>>> make it work with SuSE (wasted lots of time there), until I found
>>>> Jarod Wilson's wonderful HOW-TO for installing Myth on
>>>>
>> Fedora Core 4.
>>
>>>> (Thank you, Jarod!) I switched to Fedora and got MythTV
>>>>
>> installed and
>>
>>>> working on 2 machines.
>>>>
>>>> But over the year, I continually experienced problems
>>>>
>> when updating or
>>
>>>> upgrading via yum. Over and over again, yum refused to
>>>>
>> do anything
>>
>>>> because of dependency problems. Each time, I had to
>>>>
>> invest time and
>>
>>>> effort to work around the problem.
>>>>
>>>> When I was confronted with the problem again this week, I
>>>>
>> decided to
>>
>>>> upgrade to Fedora Core 5. So I downloaded the DVD ISO,
>>>>
>> verified the
>>
>>>> DVD was good and upgraded the master backend. After the
>>>>
>> upgrade, the
>>
>>>> system couldn't launch the X server. So I tried to run "yum
>>>> upgrade". It refused due to a conflict over the boot image.
>>>>
>>>> So I copied all my recordings to another box and dumped a
>>>>
>> backup of
>>
>>>> mythconverg - and did a clean install of Fedora Core 5.
>>>>
>> Immediately
>>
>>>> after first boot, I tried "yum upgrade". Same problem.
>>>>
>>>> I'm giving up on Fedora. Hello Ubuntu...
>>>>
>>>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>>
>> the only issue I have with Fedora and Yum out of the box is the
>> 'mirror' system that they use. Unless you specifically go into the
>> yum.repos.d files and specify a close mirror, you may be trying to
>> load packages from half-way across the planet. It's totally random.
>> If you get a 'bad' mirror, you may have issues updating / upgradeing.
>> I know which mirrors are close to my geographic location so I
>> put those into my yum config files before I ever do a yum upgrade.
>>
>> jack
>>
>
> Network install here (over the home lan) takes about two hours with lots of
> "custom install" included packages. No problem with that; it's expected.
>
> But, the first upgrade (yum -y upgrade) takes about four or five hours. (so
> it runs overnight).
>
> What's the trick to finding faster upgrade sources?
>
WOW... after a fresh FC5 install and not choosing any local mirrors and
just doing a yum upgrade, I was done in 1.5 hours including it
downloading all the headers, doing the test transaction, downloading
everything, and installing it all. I have a 5Mb Cox Business service
connection, but since the other side aren't typically giving up more
than T1 speed, I can't see how my internet connection was a huge factor.
> Are there trustworthy "secret" distribution CD's that have already been
> upgraded? Something like FC5.1? (That has a ring to it.) Or, is that what
> FC6 is about?
>
> --stan
>
>
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