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want to do...pretty much everything made these days that supports linux will
support your Satellite -> Myth functionality.

If you're in the market for setting this up from scratch typically for
LowDef capture most people are going with cards from Hauppauge (PVR-150/250
I think is the most common).  For high def, you can look at the pchdtv3000
(I think 5500 is their new card) which supports all 18 ATSC compliant
digital formats as well as unencrypted QAM 64 and 256 cable signals and is a
card built specifically for Linux...tho this isn't your solution if you
think you might want to go to windows at some point.

--Douglas Wagner

On 4/25/07, Brian Walter <blwalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Shiloh Madsen wrote:
> > Ok, I dug around in the last few months of posts for a while and I am
> > having a hard time figuring out if I am sunk before I get started or
> > not. Basically, I am wanting to set up a PC as a MythTV box, however I
> > am getting TV via satellite. I gather that piping HD content into the
> > box is pretty near impossible (though I am not sure I understand why
> > exactly that is), however, what about your standard run of the mill
> > TV? I am not going to be watching anything on an HD display for a few
> > years yet anyway (Poor college student heh) so that is no big deal.
> > The problem is, someone told me that there are no tv capture/tuner
> > cards that will work with a satellite box. Is this true or not? If it
> > is not true, can someone recommend to me some good cards that work
> > well with MythTV? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Shiloh
> >
> >
> Shiloh,
>
> I'm capturing Directv via the svideo and L/R out of a directv set top
> box.  So, yes, it *is* possible to capture from a satellite service, you
> just can't capture *directly* from it, like you do an antenna or cable
> source.  You need to have a set top box to receive and decode the
> signal, then, transmit *that* to a capture card.
>
> To do HD from satellite is *expensive*, and requires a modified set top
> box, and an intermediate box (basically an XP or Linux box, depending on
> the solution), which *then* transmitts the signal via Firewire to Myth.
>
> In my setup, I'm using a PVR-150 from Hauppauge to capture the
> svideo/audio out from a DirecTV satellite receiver, 1 PVR-500 to handle
> cable stations, and 2 HD Homeruns for HD content (unencrypted, broadcast
> channels over cable).
>
> Hope that helps somewhat.
>
> Brian
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I&#39;m going to take a stab at this tho i&#39;m not the best person to answer
the question as all I&#39;ve ever used with Myth is OTA broadcasts...no
cable, no satellite.&nbsp; This may get a bit long to, consider this your
warning. 
To start with, it is incorrect that you cannot use MythTV with a
satellite.&nbsp; The trick however is getting the signal from your Satellite box TO your MythTV Box capture/tuner card. The problem here is that typically Satellite stations are encrypted, and passing an encrypted signal to MythTV won&#39;t do you any good at all.&nbsp; I believe that the OTA channels and some of the&nbsp; other Satellite channels are required to be unencrypted or are carried unencrypted, but if you have any notions at all of recording an HBO or Pay Per View movie on your Myth Box, I believe you are well out of luck (someone will correct me if I&#39;m wrong I&#39;m sure.)
 
 Getting the signal to your capture cards typically requires the use of some kind of set top box that has an &quot;output&quot; on it of some kind.&nbsp; That output is then run to the capture card/tuner.&nbsp; The post above mine will give you some clue what you&#39;re getting into.
 Again, the content being HD or not isn&#39;t really all that important.&nbsp; Anything unencrypted (HD or SD) will be able to be read, tuned, and displayed/recorded so long as you can get the signal to your Myth Box. 
 From the Capture/Tuner card perspective there are many that support what you want to do...pretty much everything made these days that supports linux will support your Satellite -&gt; Myth functionality. If you&#39;re in the market for setting this up from scratch typically for LowDef capture most people are going with cards from Hauppauge (PVR-150/250 I think is the most common).&nbsp; For high def, you can look at the pchdtv3000 (I think 5500 is their new card) which supports all 18 ATSC compliant digital formats as well as unencrypted QAM 64 and 256 cable signals and is a card built specifically for Linux...tho this isn&#39;t your solution if you think you might want to go to windows at some point.
 --Douglas Wagner <div>On 4/25/07, Brian Walter &lt;<a href="mailto:blwalter at gmail.com">blwalter at gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Shiloh Madsen wrote: &gt; Ok, I dug around in the last few months of posts for a while and I am &gt; having a hard time figuring out if I am sunk before I get started or &gt; not. Basically, I am wanting to set up a PC as a MythTV box, however I
 &gt; am getting TV via satellite. I gather that piping HD content into the &gt; box is pretty near impossible (though I am not sure I understand why &gt; exactly that is), however, what about your standard run of the mill
 &gt; TV? I am not going to be watching anything on an HD display for a few &gt; years yet anyway (Poor college student heh) so that is no big deal. &gt; The problem is, someone told me that there are no tv capture/tuner
 &gt; cards that will work with a satellite box. Is this true or not? If it &gt; is not true, can someone recommend to me some good cards that work &gt; well with MythTV? Thanks in advance. &gt; &gt; Shiloh
 &gt; &gt; Shiloh, I&#39;m capturing Directv via the svideo and L/R out of a directv set top box.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, yes, it *is* possible to capture from a satellite service, you just can&#39;t capture *directly* from it, like you do an antenna or cable
 source.&nbsp;&nbsp;You need to have a set top box to receive and decode the signal, then, transmit *that* to a capture card. To do HD from satellite is *expensive*, and requires a modified set top box, and an intermediate box (basically an XP or Linux box, depending on
 the solution), which *then* transmitts the signal via Firewire to Myth. In my setup, I&#39;m using a PVR-150 from Hauppauge to capture the svideo/audio out from a DirecTV satellite receiver, 1 PVR-500 to handle
 cable stations, and 2 HD Homeruns for HD content (unencrypted, broadcast channels over cable). Hope that helps somewhat. Brian _______________________________________________ mythtv-users mailing list
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