[mythtv-users] Responsiveness of zap2it to lineup discrepancies?

[f-myth-users at media.mit.edu]

    > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 10:28:54 -0400
    > From: "Michael T. Dean" <mtdean at thirdcontact.com>

    > On 07/05/2006 03:30 PM, f-myth-users at media.mit.edu wrote:
    > >     Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 15:05:22 -0400
    > >     From: "Michael T. Dean" <mtdean at thirdcontact.com>
    > >
    > >     On 07/04/2006 02:09 PM, f-myth-users at media.mit.edu wrote:
    > >     > I've been reporting the same lineup discrepancy to DataDirect
    > >     ...
    > >     > (Failing that, is there some way I can convince my Myth that the
    > >     > listings for one lineup on channels 84 and 85 should -actually- be
    > >     > taken to be for channels 71 and 72 instead?  [E.g., "even though
    > >     > zap2it claims these are channels 84 and 85, they're actually 71 and
    > >     > 72".]  I'm still using 0.18.1 for the moment.)
    > >
    > >     Using mythtv-setup's channel editor, change the freqid for channels 84 
    > >
    > > I don't see a field there called freqid.  I ran mythtv-setup on the
    > > backend (with the backend still running---I'm -assuming- that I should
    > > actually do this work with the backend shut down,

    > Yes

    > > I'm now staring at a screen with "Channel Options - Common" at its
    > > title.  I see "Channel Number: 84" and "XMLTV ID: 10161" and some
    > > other random non-numeric fields.

    > Use "Next" to go to the next page, "Channel Options - Video 4 Linux", 

Well, I'll be god-damned.  I was using mythtv-setup by ssh'ing into my
backend from another machine and doing "mythtv-setup -geometry 600x400"
so it would (a) render quickly and (b) not take over my entire screen.
I've done this a zillion times before.  But -apparently-, on this
particular screen, the 3 button at the bottom are cleanly chopped off,
right at a horizontal line in the UI, and I didn't even realize there
were -supposed- to be additional buttons!  Using 1000x600, OTOH, worked
just fine.  (800x600 truncated the righthand edge, which is easier to
spot.)

Isn't the UI supposed to scale itself?  Or is there some minimum size
below which it will truncate elements without warning instead of
scaling?  (And if so, what is that size, and where is this documented?)

[It -really- doesn't help that this screen apparently wastes a whole
lot of space below the fill-in fields with a big blank box, then puts
the cancel/back/next buttons below that---maximizing the chances that
they'll be truncated without any visual feedback if the window isn't
tall enough.]

    > and change the "Frequency or Channel" setting (which corresponds to the 
    > DB's freqid field).  (The field may exist in a very different location 
    > in non-SVN and, especially, in 0.18.x, but that's the best I can give 
    > you for help.)

There's a single numeric box at the top of the second screen entitled
"Frequency ID", which is currently 84 when I start on channel 84.

(The rest of the things on that screen are picture-related, e.g.,
finetine, contrast, brightness, color, hue.  I would argue that
FreqID belongs on the -previous- page, along with callsign and
XMLID and channel number and video source, etc---all of that seems
much more related to freqid than contrast, etc.  Why not put all
the info on the same page?  Especially since we're wasting so much
area at the bottom of the page, exactly where the field could go...)

    > > Would it suffice to change the "Channel Number" field from 84 to 71,

    > No.  The channel number is used for the user's benefit (i.e. in changing 
    > channels--you can give it any value you like).  You can change it, too, 
    > but you /have/ to change the "Frequency or Channel" setting.

OK.

    > > or should I be looking in a different page entirely for something
    > > that looks like an actual frequency?
    > >
    > > [Also, while there are a pair of buttons labelled "Scan for
    > > channel(s)" and "Advanced" at the bottom of this screen, I
    > > cannot select them by tabbing around, so I can't experiment
    > > with them.]
    > >
    > >     and 85 to 71 and 72 and delete channels 71 and 72 from the lineup,
    > >
    > > Delete them from the lineup where in the UI?

    > http://labs.zap2it.com/

OK.

    > >   Using MythWeb to make
    > > them invisible?  I don't see a "delete" button in the channel editor.
    > > I could delete 71 and 72 at the zap2it site; is this what you meant?

    Yep.

However, I'm not going to do that---see next message... :)

    > >     they exist, or at least change their freqid's to the appropriate channel 
    > >     numbers.
    > >
    > > Unsure what you mean here.  71 and 72 are the "correct" channels, even
    > > though zap2it doesn't know that.  (And 84 and 85 are static.)

    > I'm assuming if you tell it to change to channel 71, it changes to 
    > channel 71, which is in your program listings as 84, so you need to tell 
    > it which broadcast channel corresponds to the one in your listings 
    > currently labeled 71.  Either that, or your listings don't have anything 
    > for 71...