[mythtv-users] What email client are you using?

myth at skicentral.tv myth at skicentral.tv
Fri Feb 17 19:35:38 UTC 2006

On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:15:13PM -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> Richard Bronosky wrote:
> > I'm really going crazy trying to keep up with my MythTV & IVTV lists. 
> > I'm using Thunderbird, and have setup a virtual folder to search for
> > bronosky in the entire message.  This works most of the time to help me
> > keep up with messages directed toward me.  However I've ran into
> > problems where a persons mail client strips out all headers from the
> > reply that had bronosky in it, and they don't leave the original message
> > in the reply.  So I never see it.

I use mutt.  You can screen mutt which is helpful when your inbox
has over 20000 messages in it (attach mutt in a screen at work,
detach screen, reattach when you get home without rereading the
index).  Mutt is annoying in that there is no included outbound
stmp code included with mutt.  For the massive amount of messages
I get (multiple mailing lists and spam), the threading is unbeatable,
except maybe by pine's threading.  I read right off my spool & send
against my localhost (I have sendmail running & smart host on my
ISP).  Mutt is MIME friendly according to /etc/mailcap (do the right
thing with attachments).  

Getting used to mutt (I was a GUI thunderbird fan) took some time,
but now I never have to take my hands off the keyboard when sifting
thru 4000 unread messages and I am extremely efficient at sorting
that much mail - more efficient than I could ever be with thunderbird.
The GUI really slows you down when you can hit 3 keystrokes to
change your threading view instead of clicking the mouse, clicking
here, clicking there.   Mutt kicks thunderbirds butt in this
department.  The screen/mutt combo is is amazing too.  You can't
really do that with a GUI mail reader except for maybe vnc.  You
then fight latency & the GUI.  Along this line of thinking, I used
to have the port forwards all set up for thunderbird at work with
home email, but this low tech ncurses reader over ssh deprecated
the need for those reindeer games.

One of the most daunting things about mutt to those uninitiated is
mutts greatest asset - flexibility.  Once I was comfortable sending
/receiving mail with mutt, I wanted to tweak my configuration.
There is no end to the options.  I proceeded to set my header to
show the exact information of each message I want, in the order I
want.  If I want to see the full header, I strike "h".  Try that
with a GUI, you will bumble thru three menus.  This functionality
alone sold me on mutt.  Plus, I use vi to compose.  I really took
the plunge & it paid off.  I will never go back to a GUI mua.  Want
to change the header before you send?  Try "E".

Here is my custom header view:

From: Jesse Guardiani <jesse at wingnet.net>
Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] What email client are you using?
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:15:13 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
        rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Thunderbird/1.0.6 Mnenhy/

Here is a snap of the config
# Ignore all headers
ignore *

# Then un-ignore the ones I want to see
unignore From:
unignore To:
unignore Reply-To:
#unignore Mail-Followup-To:
unignore Subject:
unignore Date:
unignore Organization:
#unignore Newsgroups:
unignore CC:
unignore BCC:
#unignore Message-ID:
unignore X-Mailer:
unignore User-Agent:
#unignore X-Junked-Because:
#unignore X-SpamProbe:
#unignore X-Virus-hagbard:

# Now order the visable header lines
hdr_order From: Reply-To: To: CC: BCC: Subject: Date: User-Agent: 

 "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." 


> >
> > Thunderbird has a menu option: "View>Threads>Watched Threads with
> > Unread" but doesn't seem to have a way to mark an email thread as read,
> > so...
> >
> > I would love to find a plugin or extension, or an entirely new client
> > that would allow me to sort a folder "by threads marked as watched, then

> > by threads to which I have replied, then by date"
> >
> > So, what are you using?
> >   
> I use IMAP and either Thunderbird or KMail, depending on whether I'm 
> checking my mail from work or
> home, respectively. I have the privilege of using server side mail 
> filtering using maildrop, so my mailing list
> mail always appears in the right folder without any additional 
> configuration on the client end. Here's my filter:
> # --
> # mythtv
> # --
> # mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> if ( /^List-Id: .*<mythtv-users.mythtv.org>.*/ )
> {
>         to "$MAILHOME/.Personal.Mailing Lists.mythtv"
>         exit
> }
> # ivtv-devel.lists.sourceforge.net
> if ( /^List-Post: .*ivtv-devel at ivtvdriver.org>.*/ )
> {
>         to "$MAILHOME/.Personal.Mailing Lists.ivtv-devel"
>         exit
> }
> Works 100% of the time!
> -- 
> Jesse Guardiani
> Programmer/Sys Admin
> jesse at wingnet.net
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