[mythtv-users] 'Censoring' decoding 'bad' words off of Closed Captioning

Brian Wood beww at beww.org
Fri Apr 7 22:22:01 UTC 2006


On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Steve Meyers wrote:

> Brian Wood wrote:
>> My personal opinion is that it is a wasted effort. Who are you trying
>> to protect ?? Even if it is kids, they are going to encounter such
>> language in the real world and are better served by being educated as
>> to what such language is, that it is improper in most cases etc.
>
> Believe it or not, some adults don't enjoy hearing "bad" words, and  
> I'm
> not just talking about the F word.  Several shows that I enjoy are  
> great
> except for words like "ass" that seem to be increasingly prevalent in
> network TV.  Also, lots of good family shows don't seem to mind taking
> the Lord's name in vain ("oh my God").  I know most people don't care
> about that, but some of us do.

Of course I believe it. I find the gratuitous "bad" language that  
some producers seem to think will increase ratings often detracts  
from a show. I guess it just doesn't bother me enough to put much  
effort into fighting it. Most of what I watch are documentaries, how- 
to shows (This Old House) and things like Antiques Roadshow, so  
language is not often a problem anyway.

I can certainly understand the market, it's just not a major factor  
to me, if a 100% effective box cost $5 I might think about it.

>
> I've actually been looking into doing the same thing.  I'm just
> finishing getting my MythTV set up, and the one thing that will be a
> negative for it is that our TVGuardian won't work with it.  TVGuardian
> does exactly what the original poster asked for, but it would require
> the stream coming out of the MythTV to include the closed captioning.
> (BTW - it doesn't work with real time closed captioning, only
> phrase-based closed captioning)

I don't understand what "phrase-based" captioning is, and how would a  
system know if it were real time or not ?

>
> I'd be willing to donate money to someone who could code that up.  A
> TVGuardian costs about $50 or so, so I'll give $50 to the person who
> gets that working.  Ideally, I would like to see it have a dynamic  
> word
> or regular expression list, and be able to default it to off in the
> recording settings.


How well does the TVGuardian work? If it were even 75% effective I  
can think of potential customers, but is it even that good ? Are the  
majority of errors on the "safe" side by bleeping acceptable  
language, or in the other direction, letting "bad" stuff get by? Can  
you add or subtract to the list ? Are there models for languages  
other than English ?



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