[mythtv-users] NuppelVideo container format

Felix Rubinstein felixru at gmail.com
Sun Nov 27 14:39:24 EST 2005


Guys, thanks for such a prompt reply!

But I think you miss the point.
Those of you who read the last issue of Linux journal, the "Advanced MythTV
Video Processing" article must note, I citate:
"Although digital TV recordings are an MPEG-2 video stream, the NuppelVideo
container format used by MythTV is specific to MythTV and is not supported
by most video player software. To watch the videos with anything other than
a MythTV front end, you must convert them to a format with a wider selection
of players."

I need to use mythtranscode tool to convert the MythTV recordings into more
widely supported formats, means it's not MPEG-2 format.

Additionally, as I understood, if you take a file in Myth native format with
resolution 704x480 which size is 1,756MB after decoding it to DVD (i.e.
MPEG-2) format, the file will shrink to 899MB.
Now is the one million dollar question, why the native file (original) is so
large?

Another example, what if I have PVR which has DivX encoding capabilities,
whould MythTV save it in DivX (as I expect it to be), or in its native
format?

Thank you.


On 11/27/05, Michael T. Dean <mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:
>
> Brad DerManouelian wrote:
>
> > On Nov 27, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Felix Rubinstein wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/27/05, * Donavan Stanley* <geckofiend at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:geckofiend at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     On 11/27/05, *Felix Rubinstein* < felixru at gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:felixru at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         Why does it save video in this format and not in MPEG-2 video
> >>         stream?
> >>
> >>
> >>     If you're using a hardware encoder cars it IS mpeg2 not a
> >>     nupplevideo.
> >>
> >>         Why Myth format is so large and why can't it be saved in raw
> >>         MPEG-2 video
> >>         stream for later playback?
> >>
> >>
> >>     You should REALLY search the mailing lists...  This topic has
> >>     been covered to death.
> >>
> >> Let's make it clearer, for instance, I use WinTV-PVR-150, it has
> >> MPEG-2 encoder, right? So why files stored on hard disk are still in
> >> NuppelVideo format?
> >
> >They're not. They have a .nuv extension, but are in mpeg-2 format. Try
> >working with them as mpeg-2 files and you won't have a problem.
> >
> If you want proof, try file:
>
> $ file 1018_20050115160000_20050115170000.nuv
> 1018_20050115160000_20050115170000.nuv: MPEG system stream data
>
> This isn't Windows.  File extensions mean nothing.
>
> Some broken operating systems decided to use file extensions as a way of
> identifying file types because they couldn't figure out how to do it
> right.  *nix doesn't suffer from this inherent limitation of those other
> OS's.
>
> Mike
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