[mythtv-users] Jarod - Here's Your Chance (AKA - Distro Cage Match)

Michael Haan michael.haan at gmail.com
Fri May 20 05:59:47 UTC 2005


On 5/20/05, Jarod Wilson <jarod at wilsonet.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 19 May 2005 18:48, Michael Haan wrote:
> > I know you're a big FC fan.  I've seen you quickly jump at the chance
> > to defend FC when someone suggests they can get Myth up-and-running
> > quickly on some other distro, say Gentoo.
> 
> Please let me clarify something... I'm NOT a distro hater. I'm a hater of
> people who suggest that switching distributions will magically make
> everything better (okay, and maybe a slight bit more hateful when the
> suggestion is Gentoo). If you're very close, there's probably a lot less work
> to do if you stick with whatever distribution you're using.
> 
> If a Gentoo user was extremely close to having a completely working system,
> i.e., *exactly* like the case you present, I would NOT suggest switching to
> FC just to try to fix that. About all you need is an appropriate kernel and
> kernel modules and you're there, so why reinstall everything on a mostly
> functional system?
> 
> > I myself have been running
> > Gentoo/Myth for a little while now.  Initially, I was impressed with
> > the ease of install of Myth on Gentoo (I'd tried FC before Gentoo, but
> > there was some issue with AMD64 and apt-get).
> 
> Yes, apt doesn't work on multiarch (i386/x86_64 mix) systems like FC unless
> you remove ALL the i386 bits. You have to use yum or smart instead. Known
> issue. I'm running on a RHEL4 x86_64 box now without any problems, just used
> yum instead (well, and up2date w/an RHN account...).
> 
> > Now, however, I am unhappy with Gentoo.  I have been trying for weeks
> > to upgrade my kernel so that I can use my new pchdtv3000 card - with
> > no luck.
> 
> Piece o' cake. :-)
> 
> > So, here's the challenge (all distros welcome).  Get my
> > already-working-but-can't-move-forward machine working.  I want
> > something like apt-get or ebuilds for the majority of my needs (I
> > don't mind building cvs where it makes sense).  I want my pvr350 to
> > continue working, my pchdtv3000 to start.  I'd like to leverage my
> > cpu's 63-bit arch, where possible.
> 
> Stay with Gentoo, you're way too close to nuke it.
> 
> > I have tried SuSE 9.1/9.2, FC3 and Gentoo and only Gentoo has worked
> > (this system is working, I just can't seem to upgrade it!!!).
> 
> No Debian? :-)
> 
> > Again, all distros welecome - who's up to the task?
> 
> If I had the time, I would shell into your Gentoo install right now and hook
> you up. :-)
> 
> Seriously, all you need to do is start with a clean kernel, patch the latest
> DVB code in on top of it, enable it, build it, and you're pretty much there.
> Works for me anyhow (across multiple distros, I run several, not just FC).
> 
> --
> Jarod Wilson
> jarod at wilsonet.com
> 
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I'm not so sure.  I think my hardware may be causing the issue (nVidia
all over the place and amd64 to boot).  I'd be inclined to agree with
you (not messing with a working system), except the fact of the matter
is - this system can't grow.  I cannot get a pchdtv3000 working b/c I
can't upgrade the kernel.  So, I'll put it back to you - who can make
myth box work (better than it does, with more H/W) and without me
having to install tons o' packages (just try catching all the
mythmusic dependancies)?


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