[mythtv-users] mythweb conf.php example, please
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Mon Jun 13 15:52:14 UTC 2005
> Yes, I have read the README, quite a few times. It is a source
> of great frustration. If indeed as you claim, that there need be no change
> made, then I question why the author would put the line into
> the conf.php file. For the last ten months, I have struggled with this file
> and in all that time not one reply to all the requests for an example of
> this line being filled in properly has ever been posted to this forum.
The author is me, and I put it in because SOME people feel need to
manually override this because they can't/won't set up apache properly.
As the inline comment says, the rest of you shouldn't need to touch it.
I don't recall seeing this question more than once, many months ago, and
then nothing (keeping in mind that I don't tend to notice mythweb
questions unless "mythweb" is in the message subject line) -- when the
question stops, I assume it's been answered. Most people in the mythweb
community with unanswered questions on the mailing list (this is not a
forum) tend to go to forums or the irc supprt channel (#mythtv-users on
irc.freenode.net, where most of your questions can be answered
interactively in real-time by one of a dozen friendly people)
Merely asking for the line "filled in properly" is the wrong question.
By default, it's filled in properly, as long as you, as the directions
above the line say, set up canonical names properly in apache.
> It seems extremely unfair to keep this line in the mythweb package
> without providing even the most trivial example of it properly modified.
I'm sorry if this sounds like an insult to your intelligence (please
don't take it as such), but I assumed that anyone modifying that line
should be able to follow the directions, and infer from the other
commands in the file how to do that:
// The domain of this webserver, for cookie validation and other things.
// If you don't have "canonical names" turned on in apache, you need to
// set this to the name or IP you use to access this server, or session
// data will not work. Turning on "canonical names" in apache's
// httpd.conf is the preferred option.
> I'm sorry for sounding emotional, but it's the unfairness that gets to me.
> In years of providing software to customers, I have always tried to look
> at the product as if I were one of them (a customer). When a software
> package confuses me, makes me angry or frustrated, I try to improve it
> so the customer won't be confused, angry, or whatever.
Installing web packages is not an easy job. It's not like an
application where you can just assume control over things like the
domain name of the server -- all of that needs to happen within the web
server (which doesn't have to be apache, but usually is), and that's up
to the user to figure out how to do. The best I an do is set up the
mythweb config file with defaults that work 99% of the time.
I'm sorry if you find this frustrating, but no where in your original
message did you ever say that you actually TRIED to get mythweb up and
running, and failed (at which point, you would have some sort of error
message, or at least a description of what didn't work).
> I'd just like to see an example of this line included in the mythweb package.
I'm not going to change it for the < 1% of people who need a custom
setting. Those who do, should already know what info needs to go in there.
On the other hand, I do plan to change mythweb so that it relies on user
logins instead of cookies for tracking preferences. But since I also
maintain a handful of other open source projects, not to mention have a
full time job, a couple of for-pay side projects, a house, a yard and a
wife, it might be awhile before I can find the time to do that.
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