[mythtv-users] Cutpoints delayed & bad commercial flagging

Matthew Carle matthew_carle at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 7 06:53:48 EDT 2005


Can anyone confirm that cutpoints should occur at the correct time (eg no
delay) and that this is in fact a bug/bad setting somewhere for just a few
of us?

Thanks,
Matthew. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Carle
> Sent: Monday, 4 July 2005 9:17 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Cutpoints delayed & bad 
> commercial flagging
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Phillips
> > Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2005 9:08 PM
> > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Cutpoints delayed & bad commercial 
> > flagging
> > 
> > On 03/07/2005, at 12:21 PM, Matthew Carle wrote:
> > 
> > > I usually put cutpoints into a movie before I watch it so I
> > can just
> > > let it run (I don't transcode). The problem is that it 
> always plays 
> > > about 10 seconds after the "delete after this point" 
> cutpoints. The 
> > > "delete before this point" cutpoints don't appear to have
> > the problem
> > > (certainly not to the same degree - I havn't noticed it).
> > >
> > > I have also tried a transcode which also results in the delay.
> > >
> > > Is this a software limitation or is something not working right?
> > >
> > > I also have another issue which may be related. 
> Commercial flagging 
> > > nearly always detects commercials as starting and ending 
> too early 
> > > (averaging 20-30 seconds). I don't think I've ever seen a
> > commercial
> > > break flagged correctly.
> > > Is this normal? I am using the "all" method of flagging.
> > 
> > I have similar problems with 0.17 (I'm in Adelaide using 
> DVB-T). End 
> > cutpoints end late and commercial flagging is quite spotty 
> (using the 
> > "all" method of detection). The late end cut-points aren't a bug 
> > problem and, since commercial breaks tend to be 3 mins, 
> I've just got 
> > into the habit of turning flagging off and hitting "3" "forward" to 
> > skip 3 mins when the commercials start.
> > 
> > I assume that commercial flagging is optimized for US TV 
> and something 
> > in the commercial layouts on Australian free to air channels throws 
> > it. It seems to be especially easily fooled by the station's own 
> > commercials for upcoming shows that come at the end of ad breaks. I 
> > realise commercial flagging is a bit of a black art, so I'm not too 
> > surprised it doesn't work in places it probably isn't tuned 
> for. I'm 
> > just happy that it works so well otherwise ;)
> > 
> > Matt.
> 
> 
> I can understand how the commercial flagging might not work 
> too well, however the main issue I was wondering about is the 
> cut-point problem. Do people outside of Australia have this 
> problem? I can't really see how it would be related to the 
> video stream (but I'm sure that's possible). I mainly 
> mentioned the commercial flagging in case it is related.
> 
> Any ideas anyone?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matthew.
> 


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