[mythtv-users] Re: Re: Cannot set a recording
GeckoFiend at gmail.com
Mon Sep 6 15:12:51 EDT 2004
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:41:06 -0400, Michael J. Sherman
<msherman at dsbox.com> wrote:
> >> Open source software is continually dinged on the lack of usable
> >> interfaces; why not buck that trend and use standard/simple interface
> >> styles? If I showed this "new" and "improved" recording options >screen
> >> to a non-technical person, their head would explode. I guess I could
> >> explain how the new options screen is not using QT widgets and it's
> >> themeable, and then I'm sure they would understand.
> >Other than the lack of a visual indicator to show you left/right how
> >is it prone to make someone's head explode?
> Because you're mixing interface styles; that is why. A list box should
> be a list of options, and you can choose one. But now there are
> buttons, submenus, and menu headers mixed into a listbox. Anyone who
> has taken a class in HCI (human computer interaction) would mock this
> screen all day long.
If this had been designed for use on a computer screen using a mouse
the design would have been a lot different. The rules are a lot
different when you have arrows and enter as the only keys available
Take a look at the UI for other PVR devices such as Tivo. The
interface is much the same. In fact, the recording options screen was
modeled after Tivo's.
> If I want to record, I should be able to with minimal button presses.
> So I bring up the program grid, hit enter. Then I should be able to see
> my recording options, and hit enter once again to make it record.
The choice was made that "do not record" should be the starting
recording type. I don't tend to a gree but that's not my call.
> I would propose a screen that looks like this:
> | Program info stuff goes here
> | Do not record
> | Record only this showing
> | Record this every week
> | Record this every day
> | Record any time on this channel
> | Record any time
> | Advanced Options ->
> That way, I can get in there, hit down once, and hit enter, and boom,
> I'm set to record. In the Advanced Options selection, it would bring up
> another screen with Scheduling Options, Storage Options, Program
> Details, and List Upcoming Episodes.
So you eat up a huge amount of screen space to display the choices for
> Right now, when I go to the program grid, I hit enter. My first option
> is "Record this program as shown", but it's greyed out! I can hit down,
> but then I cannot hit up to get back up to where it came in. I know, I
> then have to hit left/right on Option #2, but why is this first option
> even there with my selection bar on it when I come in? As a new user,
> if I hit enter from the program grid, I would want to then select
> "record this program as shown". The wording suggests that is the
> option I want (I want to record it, after all). This first option in
> the list box should be a button element on the screen. You set your
> recording options, then hit this button to set it to record. The
> "button" should not be listbox option #1. Also, why is there a [Cancel]
> button when I can hit escape? Other screens in Myth do not have a
> cancel button.
Have you *seen* any of the settings dialogs? That's all the recoding
options screen is, a settings dialog. They do have cancel buttons.
The [cancel] option is provided as another way to accomplish the same
task as the exit button does.
> The way it is now with the left/right, I do not know all my options
> until I scroll through them all. With what I propose above (which is
> how it used to be), I could see all my options at a glance, which is
> what a listbox widget is supposed to do in the first place.
If you want to see all your options in a list. Hit select on the
item, which again was covered in the message describing this feature.
> If you want to use the left/right style, all I ask is that it not be
> wrapped up into a listbox widget. That is, I think, what is
> fundamentally broken about this new style.
I personly think you're overstating the problem. The problem is the
lack of visual indicators to show you that you can move left or right
and that's being fixed.
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