[mythtv-users] bit of an update.. and nigly problems.. lol

[Henk Poley]

Op zondag 30 mei 2004 00:27, schreef Craig Tinson:
> Henk Poley wrote:
> >A program that can do 'linked' playback is NMM, so if you _need_ it:
> >http://www.networkmultimedia.org/
>
> thanks for the link :)
>
> multiple *live* streams ain't *that* important.. was just my
> misunderstanding.. have always associated systems that use terms like
> "master/server/client/etc/etc" usually mean a backend with multiple
> clients.. in this case that is still *technically* true but not how I was
> (mistakenly) understanding it..

Hehe, yep, "*technically* true" as in, each frontend that you want to view 
LiveTV with simultaniously needs a separate TV card.

> like I said.. not that important.. however.. am curious as to *why* this is
> the case.. I understand the "who authorises recording to begin etc" part of
> it.. but would have thought it'd be a relatively simple case of defining a
> "primary frontend" or a host-based priority principle..

"who authorises recording"? Every frontend can schedule recordings, the master 
backend will place them on the different backends/TV-cards.

> however.. as I've stated in previous posts.. am not a real developer.. so
> these questions are probably quite nieve (sp?)

Well, being dev or non-dev is not the problem in understanding why it hasn't 
been implemented.

1. The 'itch' thing, no MythTV developer has thought 'this I am going to fix'.

2. On the other hand, even if you do LiveTV with a 'primary' or 'who comes 
first is primary viewer' it will be unintuitive for most people. "Why can't I 
change channels?", "Ow! $#$%@#!! I left LiveTV on upstairs", etc.

Just saying "won't be done" is easiest. :-P

> will stick with Myth though.. as its still *without doubt* the best
> application I've ever used on *any* platform for this kind of thing.. :)

NMM should be pretty good too, never used it though, but it can do most things 
MythTV does. Maybe it misses the automatic commercial detection, since that 
isn't usefull in Europe, NMM is a German uni's project. But then it can 
handle video over FireWire as input, what MythTV can't, and have multiple 
frontends view the same ringbuffer. They have a smaller userbase, than can be 
nasty when trying to get help...

btw, I think some of the simultanious LiveTV limitations will be lifted when 
DVB/ATSC get's more polished. One tuned frequency has multiple digital 
channels multiplexed in it, which can be viewed independently at the same 
time. So then this whole 'each simultanious recording has it's own tuner' 
thing needs a bit of an overhaul. There is a possibility that it will make it 
easier to implement this for analog (Live)TV too.

	Henk Poley <><


PS: Before someone falls over me saying "if you want DVB fixed, do it 
yourself": I don't have DVB (nor ATSC).
PS2: This isn't even _my_ idea.