[mythtv-users] x-box or cheap PC for frontends?

Peter Loron peterl at standingwave.org
Tue Mar 16 16:15:50 EST 2004


Ah, ok. I'd aleady seen that distro...thought there might be another one 
to check out!  :-)

Thanks.

-Pete

Phill Wiggin wrote:

> Sorry, "LiveCD" might have been something of a misnomer.  I boot my Xbox 
> with the "Boot from CD" option of MythTV-0.14-1 / XBOX Release 0.3 (see: 
> http://bit.blkbk.com/ for more details).  It runs just like a LiveCD 
> with no install to the hard drive.
> 
> I can't point you to an .iso since each person's configuration is 
> different. You modify the mount points in /etc/fstab, your network 
> settings, etc. as required by your network setup. After you've made your 
> network-specific changes, you create an iso out of that, then burn the 
> resulting iso to a CDRW.  (I had _no_ luck with Memorex, but YMMV)
> 
> If you have any questions on getting it set up, I'll do what I can. :)
> 
> --Phill W.
> 
> Peter Loron wrote:
> 
>> Which Live CD are you using? Pointers to .iso? Thanks!
>>
>> -Pete
>>
>> Phill Wiggin wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also running the Xbox Myth frontend. I installed a mod chip 
>>> rather than using a software hack.  (I'm using the Chameleon v1.0 ... 
>>> check www.easybuy2000.com for more info) As an alternative to 
>>> installing linux on your xbox, you can boot from a "LiveCD" version.  
>>> This lets you boot it entirely off of a removable CDRW, so you don't 
>>> have it actually installed on the hard drive.  (On my xbox, the 
>>> booting process takes approximately 5-10 minutes from power-on to 
>>> Myth-Love)  I'm using the Svideo/digital audio A/V pack, and it works 
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> Anyone else booting from a LiveCD?  Are your load times similar?  
>>> I've also noted some problems booting the CD occasionally, but 
>>> cycling the power seems to get it to work.
>>> --Phill W.
>>>
>>> Bill Bradley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well it depends on how you want to install linux on it.  You can use 
>>>> the software mod with MechAssault to install linux.  This will allow 
>>>> you to install to the save game partition.  If you have a mod 
>>>> chipped xbox, you flash the bios and replace the hard drive with a 
>>>> larger model and just run linux.  I used the software mod.  This 
>>>> requires that the MS Dashboard be of a certain version. MS updated 
>>>> the dashboard via xbox live to fix the vulnerability that allowed 
>>>> you to run unsigned code from the MEchAssault save game.  I bought a 
>>>> refurbed box off of ebay, figuring that it would have the original 
>>>> dash on it and I lucked out.  There is a step by step guide and an 
>>>> xbox hardware db @ http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ that you will 
>>>> want to check out....
>>>>
>>>> As far as video inputs, if I was using the wrong terms...I meant the 
>>>> standard "Yellow, Red, White" input connectors.  I dont have the 
>>>> svideo kit, so I dont know if this works or not.  Check the 
>>>> http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ site for more info...
>>>>
>>>> On Monday 15 March 2004 10:54 pm, malcolm wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> That sounds very promising.  If I'm understanding the way you are
>>>>> explaining; You installed Dennis's xbox Myth to the hard drive 
>>>>> which frees
>>>>> up the DVD player so it's also a DVD player?  Sounds cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any differences in x-boxes I should know about?  Or can I 
>>>>> just
>>>>> hit ebay and pick pretty much any xbox with remote?
>>>>>
>>>>> You mentioned component video does not work but you use the composite.
>>>>> Aren't those the same thing?  Sorry I'm not a video genius ;)
>>>>> My TV will just be using s-video or coax so as long as xbox has one of
>>>>> those out I'm good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Malcolm
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bill Bradley" <wbradley at bham.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] x-box or cheap PC for frontends?
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> it works great.  i bought a 2nd xbox just run a frontend on.  I 
>>>>>> use the
>>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> def
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> encode settings with my PVR 250 @ 640x480 with no problems.  I use 
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>> Cartier's (mentioned on this list and xbox-linux user) modified 
>>>>>> Xebian
>>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.0.1
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> (minimal stripped for myth) and so far it does everything my other
>>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> frontend
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> does.  It includes support for the xbox dvd playback dongle for 
>>>>>> remote
>>>>>> control.   If you dont like the xbox remote, there is a hack to get a
>>>>>> stabdard USB IR receiver working. Picture and sound are clear 
>>>>>> right out
>>>>>> of the box, plus no compiling.  Just install , reboot, and voila.  
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> only tweaking is b4 the install you have to edit the config file for
>>>>>> mount
>>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> points,
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> interfaces and mysql.txt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only issue I am aware of is Component Video.  It does not work in
>>>>>> this release of Xebian (I could be wrong).  I use standard Composite
>>>>>> Video and
>>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> looks fine...but then I dont have an HDTV....  You may want to 
>>>>>> check the
>>>>>> xbox-linux user list over at sourceforge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday 15 March 2004 08:15 pm, malcolm wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm finally at the point of expansion where I'd like to make a Myth
>>>>>>> frontend box for my basement.  I want it to be able to play
>>>>>>> pre-recorded shows and possably watch live TV with pause 
>>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>> Having it
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> also
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>> double as a DVD player would be cool but not required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quite honstly I don't think I could build a tiny cheap PC even 
>>>>>>> close to
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>> cost of an X-box.
>>>>>>> So I'm wondering from those that have actually used an x-box for a
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> frontend
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>> is how well does it work?  Is sound and picture clear and nice or 
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>> take lots of fiddeling and tweaking to make it work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about a remote?  I assume the x-box has an IR receiver on it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it makes any difference I capture with the Myth's default 
>>>>>>> settings
>>>>>>> of 4500 on video and 384 kb/s on the audio with a 350/250 combo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or if there are any other cheap combo PC type solutions out there 
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> be interested to hear about them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Malcolm
>>>>>>>
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