[mythtv-users] Torrentocracy

Ryan Allen ryan at the-summit.net
Tue Jun 22 17:15:37 EDT 2004


What does any of this have to do with MythTV?  Please take this to a
more appropriate forum.  

I think that new development within Myth is awesome, and I support
anybody who will take on the challenge.

Go Torrentocracy!




* Thor Melsted <thor at netwood.net> wrote on [06-22-04y 13:50]:
> J. Donavan Stanley hacked up a hairball and growled:
> >And maybe just maybe, obeying the law so we don't give them ammunition.  
> >People like David are the reason things like the DMCA exist.  If idiots
> like him weren't 
> >sharing shows, movies and music with their buddies we wouldn't have the
> mess we have now.
> 
>  The DMCA exists because MPAA and RIAA lobbied congressmen and senators, in
> an attempt to protect their content from the prying eyes and ears of
> legitimate consumers who have already paid for the content and want to
> assert their rights under the fair-use clause to use the content they've
> paid for, in a specific manner not originally described by the copyright
> owner, e.g. putting their music on mp3 players and/or making backup copies
> of movies they've already paid for.
> 
>  I record a particular show on a weekly basis and edit out the commercials
> myself and encode it to a nice format such as Xvid, but what if one week
> there's a power outage and I miss the recording?  How would it be different
> for me if I were to download a copy of the same show which has been made
> available by someone else?  I fully understand the issue as presented by the
> MPAA where they say that because it's made available, anyone can get it and
> it's without permission from the copyright holder, and that the advertisers
> get cheated. But it's missing the point.
> 
>  Sharing movies and music is a little different than sharing tv shows that
> are broadcast on free network television.  The movies and music you've paid
> for (most of the time anyway), whereas tv shows are broadcast laden with
> commercials.  If I timeshift to skip the commercials (either using myth,
> tivo or a vcr), wouldn't that be the exact same act of "stealing" as if I
> had watched the show in a pre-edited format off a cd or dvd I borrowed from
> a friend, who made it the exact same way?  I don't see a difference.  The
> only difference between the copies, is that I made one (as I'm legally
> allowed to do) and someone else made the other.  The end result is the same,
> and therefore the step of downloading merely replaces the steps of capturing
> and encoding.
> 
>  Also, please mind your manners.  This is not the only time you've been rude
> here.  Your first reply to me was rather rude as well.  This is a
> "discussion", not a pissing contest.  Calling people idiots is completely
> uncalled for, and so is having a nasty overall attitude.
> 
> Live long and prosper.
> 
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