[mythtv-users] ivtv / pvr250 MCE problem...

[Boyd II, Willy]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gabe Knuth [mailto:me at gabeknuth.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:37 AM
>To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
>Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] ivtv / pvr250 MCE problem...
>
>
>Spare me the holier than thou attitude.  I read what I could 
>and it didn't help me.  The instructions on the site say how 
>to extract from the CDROM and I did that, to no avail.  I 
>asked how I could extract the firmware from the exe's on that 
>are linked to from Jarod's howto and got no help, so I posted 
>to this list.
>

::sigh::  Normally I'm on the side of the newbie asking the question, and
consider some replies as rather harsh.  But in this instance, I find this
thread almost comical.  Let me quote you and compare:

>I 
>asked how I could extract the firmware from the exe's on that 
>are linked to from Jarod's howto and got no help

And from the Google results which you say you had already found:

>"You should download the Win32 executables/drivers you find on 
>Hauppauge's site and extract the firmware with the 
>ivtvfwextract.pl script from ivtv 'utils' dir. It will create 
>two binary .bin (firmware) files in your /lib/modules/ dir. 
>These will be loaded to the PVR 250/350 board whenever you 
>load the drivers... Good luck!"

It clearly says, use the ivtvfwextract.pl script, for the executable drivers
(the exe's linked from Jarod's howto, which YOU refered to)

Does anyone else besides me find this funny, or am I missing something?  

>Congrats on being able to search. I found that stuff days ago 
>while trying to work this out.

It would appear then you answered your own question regarding extraction,
days ago.


>
>J. Donavan Stanley wrote:
>
>> I DID have the answer.  As do most of the people on this list.  The 
>>fact
>>that you DON'T have the answer demonstrates your basic lack 
>of knowledge 
>>about the system you're setting up.  When provided a link to a place 
>>where you could educate yourself and LEARN you instead once 
>again took 
>>the easy way out and demanded an answer here.
>
>If you had the answer, why not contribute to the group right 
>off the bat, rather than posting worthless crap?  You are 
>partially correct - I don't have a very thorough knowledge of 
>the system I'm setting up.  That's why I'm doing it...to 
>LEARN.  I apologize for not just knowing how it all 
>works...shame on me.
>
>Folks, I tried all the options I could think of before 
>posting.  I even RTFM, but it didn't appear that I was doing 
>it right, so after asking the ivtv guys for help, I moved on 
>to this list.  To those that provided answers
>- thank you very much.  When I finally get a backend running 
>and figure out how all this works, I'll most definitely 
>contribute answers to the list, instead of questions.
>
>J. Donavan Stanley - if you want to discuss more, email me 
>offlist.  Quit polluting this list with worthless answers and 
>a poor attitude.
>
>Gabe
>me at gabeknuth.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of J. 
>Donavan Stanley
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:53 AM
>To: Discussion about mythtv
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv / pvr250 MCE problem...
>
>Gabe Knuth wrote:
>
>>You know what?  Answers like that are not designed to be helpful, 
>>they're trying to teach someone a lesson that need not be learned.  
>>I've googled, I've looked in the archives, I've even been on the IRC 
>>channel for ivtv and not had any results.
>>
>>  
>>
>No Gabe a smart ass reply meant to teach you a lesson would have been 
>RTFM without bothering to point you to a place that can answer your 
>question.  The installation instructions for ivtv cover how to extract 
>the firmware for the cards.  The reason nobody in IRC discussed it or 
>probably answered you when you asked about it is because it's 
>like step 
>one or two when you RTFM.
>
>I simply typed "ivtv firmware download" into my google search box in 
>Firefox and got this on the FIRST PAGE:
>
>"You should download the Win32 executables/drivers you find on 
>Hauppauge's site and extract the firmware with the 
>ivtvfwextract.pl script from ivtv 'utils' dir. It will create 
>two binary .bin (firmware) files in your /lib/modules/ dir. 
>These will be loaded to the PVR 250/350 board whenever you 
>load the drivers... Good luck!"
>
>
>
>I DID have the answer.  As do most of the people on this list. 
> The fact 
>that you DON'T have the answer demonstrates your basic lack of 
>knowledge 
>about the system you're setting up.  When provided a link to a place 
>where you could educate yourself and LEARN you instead once again took 
>the easy way out and demanded an answer here.
>
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