[mythtv-users] Nehemiah Performance

and hons at rcn.com
Wed Sep 3 20:33:24 EDT 2003


I'll have a look at what my xfree86config says after switching back to  
2.4.20-8
What are your ivtv settings?
Mine are:
bitrate 4000000
bitrate_peak 6000000
aspect 1
dnr_mode=3
dnr_spatial=2
dnr_temporal=4
dnr_type=0
height 480
width 480

The odd thing is that mythtv sounds and looks fine using vesa just when  
I boot and for a while, but as a test I ran it over night, last night  
and this morning it was not at all smooth.... as  aI mentioned it was  
sputtering on both video and audio even if I chage channel. It would  
also seem to be in slowmotion this morning and from that I imagine  
either the processor busy or the myth slowmotion features has engaged,  
but as I couldn't switch it off it probably the processor....

Any thoughts

anders

On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 03:57 PM, rwk at americom.com wrote:

> If you find any optimizations, I would like to see them...
>
> Dick
>
> ####################################################################### 
> #
> # Config for EPIA-M TV-out
> #
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
>
> 	#
> 	Identifier     "Anaconda Configured"
> 	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
> 	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> 	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
>
> # The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
> # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
> # no need to change the default.
> # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated  
> together)
> # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent  
> of
> # the X server to render fonts.
>     #FontPath   "unix/:7100"
> 	RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> 	FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Module"
> 	Load  "extmod"
> 	Load  "glx"
> EndSection
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
>
> 	# added these few options in. cb
> 	Option	    "allowmouseopenfail"
> 	Option	    "blank time" "0"
> 	Option	    "standby time" "0"
> 	Option	    "suspend time" "0"
> 	Option	    "off time" "0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>
> #	Option	"AutoRepeat"	"500 5"
> # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
> # following line
> #	Option	"Protocol"	"Xqueue"
> # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
> #	Option	"XkbDisable"
> # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
> # lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
> # keyboard, you will probably want to use:
> #	Option	"XkbModel"	"pc102"
> # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
> #	Option	"XkbModel"	"microsoft"
> #
> # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
> # For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
> #	Option	"XkbLayout"	"de"
> # or:
> #	Option	"XkbLayout"	"de"
> #	Option	"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"
> #
> # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
> # control keys, use:
> #	Option	"XkbOptions"	"ctrl:swapcaps"
> 	#Option	"XkbOptions"	""
> 	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> 	Driver      "kbd"
> 	Option	    "Xleds" "1 2 3"
> # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
> 	Option	    "XkbRules" "xfree86"
> 	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
> 	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
> 	#Option	"XkbVariant"	""
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier  "Mouse0"
> 	Driver      "mouse"
> 	Option	    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
> 	Option	    "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> 	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> 	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
> 	Identifier   "Monitor0"
> 	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> 	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
> 	HorizSync    30.0 - 60.0
> 	VertRefresh  50.0 - 125.0
> 	ModeLine     "720x480" 26.7 720 736 808 896 480 481 484 497
> 	ModeLine     "720x576" 32.7 720 744 816 912 576 577 580 597
> 	ModeLine     "848x480" 31.5 848 864 952 1056 480 481 484 497
> 	ModeLine     "856x480" 31.7 856 872 960 1064 480 481 484 497
> 	ModeLine     "1024x512" 41.3 1024 1056 1160 1296 512 513 516 531
> 	ModeLine     "1280x768" 80.1 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795
> 	ModeLine     "1440x1050" 126.2 1440 1536 1688 1936 1050 1051 1054 1087
> 	ModeLine     "720x480" 34.9 720 752 824 928 480 481 484 502
> 	ModeLine     "720x576" 42.6 720 760 832 944 576 577 580 602
> 	ModeLine     "848x480" 41.0 848 880 968 1088 480 481 484 502
> 	ModeLine     "856x480" 41.3 856 888 976 1096 480 481 484 502
> 	ModeLine     "1024x512" 53.3 1024 1072 1176 1328 512 513 516 535
> 	ModeLine     "1280x768" 103.0 1280 1360 1496 1712 768 769 772 802
> 	ModeLine     "1440x1050" 160.0 1440 1536 1696 1952 1050 1051 1054 1096
> 	ModeLine     "1280x768" 118.5 1280 1368 1504 1728 768 769 772 807
> 	ModeLine     "1440x1050" 184.5 1440 1544 1704 1968 1050 1051 1054 1103
> 	ModeLine     "848x480" 47.4 848 888 976 1104 480 481 484 505
> 	Option	    "dpms"
> 	#Refresh Rate 60Hz
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> 	Identifier  "VESA driver (generic)"
> 	Driver      "via"
> 	VendorName  "VESA driver (generic)"
> 	BoardName   "VESA driver (generic)"
> 	Option	    "TVType" "NTSC"
> 	Option	    "TVOutput" "S-Video"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> 	Identifier "Screen0"
> 	Device     "VESA driver (generic)"
> 	Monitor    "Monitor0"
> 	DefaultDepth     24
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Depth     24
> 		Modes    "1024x768" "720x480" "640x480" "800x600"
> 	EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
> Section "DRI"
> 	Mode         0666
> EndSection
>
>> I'm using a monitor at the moment, but will switch to tv as soon as I
>> get it reasonably working so I'd love to see your XF86Config as I have
>> my serious doubt the one I use.. no matter how much I tweak the ivtv
>> settings my video is sputtering and not at all smooth... even at
>> 480x480 using the vesa driver.
>> When I use the via driver I get the ui corruption in the list views  
>> and
>> weather etc as mentioned by Tako.
>> rgds
>> anders
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 12:27 AM, rwk at americom.com wrote:
>>
>>>> I now have myth more or less working and the first report was vastly
>>>> optimistic.
>>>> Mplayer still looks great with full size and stream, but the video  
>>>> in
>>>> myth has to be much smaller *480x480) for my m10k to handle it!!
>>>>
>>>> My screen graphics is also completely screwed up. Screens don't  
>>>> redraw
>>>> and some graphics don't show up or move when a button is
>>>> pressed...etc.
>>>> Might be the video driver, but it's pretty wiesrd and I have no idea
>>>> how to fix it. I'm going to try to switch to another video drivers
>>>> (vesa generic), but if some one have a suggestions or recommendation
>>>> for my rh9-epiam10k system I'd greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Are you using a TV or a VGA monitor?  I use a TV (i.e., the EPIA's
>>> S-video out) and have no problems.  If you use TV-out I will be happy
>>> to
>>> send you my XF86config file (or post it if anyone else wants to see
>>> it).
>>>
>>> BTW, I found the drivers (on viaarena) you mentioned below to use the
>>> on-board MPEG decoder but I haven't yet installed them.  I too am
>>> unable
>>> to run above 480x480 with the M10k decoding with software.  If the
>>> drivers work, I expect to be able to decode 720x480 with virtually no
>>> CPU usage.  This will free up the CPU to do things like transcoding.
>>> Both encoding and decoding will be done in hardware, encoding on the
>>> pvr-250 and decoding on the m10k broad.  It ought to be very cool if  
>>> it
>>> works.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else out there gotten this to work (under RH9)?  The  
>>> epia-m
>>> on-board mpeg decoder, that is...
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> anders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about the confusion.
>>>> On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 09:02 AM, and wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't fully installed mythtv 0.11 yet (using atrms from berlin
>>>>> and
>>>>> I can't get the lirc to install/compile), but tried it out with
>>>>> mplayer and there was absolutely smooth video.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also originally tried on debian with the regular cvs xfree86-4.3
>>>>> drivers and had to settle for the via (with lots of mpeg and other
>>>>> undeclared and other errors) and had to settle for lower rez and
>>>>> birate, but even then I had bad sound unless I timeshifted the
>>>>> content
>>>>> a little...The xfree drivers are still a little buggy acording to
>>>>> vias
>>>>> opensource reprasentative and only provides 2d accl with out the  
>>>>> mpeg
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad  the binary drivers are not available for debian. I'm  
>>>>> having
>>>>> a
>>>>> hard time adjusting to redhat world... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> rgds
>>>>> anedrs
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 02:34 AM, Tako Schotanus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You got 16m/8m at 720x480 running with Myth Live TV?
>>>>>> That would be seriously cool because I'm currently using something
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> 5m/4m at 460x576 to get stutter free video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I'm not using those binary drivers you mention but the drivers
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> came with the CVS version of XFree86 some months ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you have to do anything special to get those drivers to work?
>>>>>> (Recompile X like I had to do for example) The reason I ask is  
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> previous binary drivers I had encountered all seemed to use
>>>>>> functionality/API from X that was not included in the standard
>>>>>> RedHat
>>>>>> 9
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>  -Tako
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of and
>>>>>>> Sent: vrijdag 29 augustus 2003 9:12
>>>>>>> To: Discussion about mythtv
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Nehemiah Performance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you using redhat 9?
>>>>>>> If you are, there are binary video and accl mpeg drivers  
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> viaarena.com that really helps. I've been playing around with
>>>>>>> it today
>>>>>>> and even with the 16m/8m stream at 720x480 from my pvr250 I
>>>>>>> didn't see
>>>>>>> any problems.
>>>>>>> I used to be running debian where there are no binary drivers
>>>>>>> avaliable
>>>>>>> for the cle266 and could therefore not take advantage of the
>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>> accl....at least that is what I think is making the big  
>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> my m10k.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anders
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 09:21 PM, rwk at americom.com  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to see if I could tell the difference, I set my record
>>>>>>> resolution
>>>>>>>> from 480x480 to 720x480.  However, when I started watching I was
>>>>>>>> surprised to find that my 1Gh Nehemiah EPIA processor
>>>>>>> couldn't handle
>>>>>>>> it.  It sputtered every few seconds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I ran a top from another machine and indeed observed that
>>>>>>> mythfrontend
>>>>>>>> was using 99% of the cpu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My EPIA machine is connected to a TV through the onboard
>>>>>>> S-Video out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a comparison I tried the same thing on my Athlon 2200+
>>>>>>> running a ATI
>>>>>>>> Technologies Inc Radeon VE QY video card.  I was again
>>>>>>> surprised to see
>>>>>>>> that mythfrontend was using less than 0.1% of the CPU and X
>>>>>>> was using
>>>>>>>> about 10%.  Needless to say it plays without missing a beat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is it about the EPIA (hardware or drivers) which makes it
>>>>>>>> soooo
>>>>>>>> much slower than the Athlon system?  The difference is CPU
>>>>>>> power is not
>>>>>>>> enough to explain it.  Is it the video drivers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And why is all the processing in mythfrontend on the EPIA
>>>>>>> box, and in X
>>>>>>>> on the Athlon?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any and all opinions!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dick
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