[mythtv-users] GUI size vs. video size

[Curtis Stanford]

On November 25, 2003 02:29 pm, Alan Snyder wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org
> > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf
>
> Of Bruce Markey
>
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:40 PM
> > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] GUI size vs. video size
> >
> > Curtis Stanford wrote:
> > > OK, I've seen messages about this before but I
>
> still think the
>
> > > situation
> > > stinks so I want to see want others think.
> > >
> > > I'm using an EPIA M10000 box with the latest VIA
>
> binary
>
> > drivers for X
> >
> > > windows.
> > > This driver has an overscan setting for use with
>
> TV's which
>
> > works quite well.
> >
> > > Of course, using this setting results in all the
>
> mythtv GUI
>
> > stuff being cut
> >
> > > off on all four edges. Adjusting the "Screen
>
> setting" (i.e.
>
> > GUI width, height
> >
> > > and offsets) fixes the GUI problem but screws up
>
> the video
>
> > which was quite
> >
> > > fine before thank you very much.
> > >
> > > My only choice seems to be to set the X driver to
> >
> > "underscan" and then
> >
> > > try to
> > > adjust both the "Screen setting" options and
>
> "Overscan"
>
> > options to try and
> >
> > > get both the GUI and video to look right. After
>
> quite a
>
> > number of tries, I
> >
> > > never could get this to look right. Not nearly as
>
> good as
>
> > letting the X
> >
> > > driver to the overscan for me.
> > >
> > > So, why can't we have a setting to "inset" only
>
> the GUI so
>
> > I can take
> >
> > > advantage of the overscan setting in the X driver
>
> but still
>
> > be able to see
> >
> > > all of the GUI? Seems to be a much simpler
>
> solution, at
>
> > least for other
> >
> > > people out there in this situation.
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening.
> >
> > I listened and I feel your pain. I'm using nVidia
>
> TVOverScan
>
> > at 1.0 to try to align scan lines and am aware of
>
> the same
>
> > sort of problems. I imagine people using PVR-350s
>
> for TV-out
>
> > are up against the same thing. The main problems is
>
> that
>
> > theme designs are not aware of the NTSC "title safe"
>
> and
>
> > "action safe" areas. The secondary
>
> workaround/solution is
>
> > that MythTV no longer has a 'fullscreen' mode
>
> separate from
>
> > the GUI dimensions.
>
> Why have a workaround for a problem that doesn't need
> to exist
> in the first place?  The themes should keep their
> contents
> within NTSC or PAL "action safe" areas.
>
>
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Agreed.