[mythtv-users] [OT] The future of PVRs and TV ads

[Joseph H. Fry]

Sounds like the way to make a company out of mythtv... sell
preconfigured systems, offer support, buy reliable guide data... and in
exchange you get data about what your users are watching... then sell
this data to advertisers and other interested parties.

Not gonna make anyone rich until the installed base comes close to the
tivo's, but there is potential.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces at snowman.net] On Behalf Of Kirby Vandivort
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:36 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] The future of PVRs and TV ads
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 01:11:28PM -0700, Lan Barnes wrote:
> > Well, since I started this, I'll comment. I would have no
philosophical
> > or privacy objection to a voluntary system such as this, although I
> > might not use it too much. But I would hope that it would be
anonymous
> > (i.e., you know what your unique number is, but the system doesn't
> > record who you are).
> >
> > ... and I would probably opt out.
> 
> It wouldn't be a matter of opt'ing out.  You'd have to opt in to take
> advantage of it.  :)
> 
> I can't see the system recording any more than it needs to about you.
> I'm as cognizant of the whole privacy thing as the next guy..  I see
> the uniqueness as being a requirement, though, and things like zip
code
> as being a way to increase accuracy..  As far as how the unique number
> gets assigned..  Wouldn't matter to me as long as uniqueness would be
> guaranteed.  There has to be a certain amount of work done to prevent
> malicious users from "stuffing the ballot boxes"..  So, it's a ways
> down the road.  I'm just trying to think up ways to improve my little
> bayesian recommendation detector and with the very limited amount of
> info that we get on a show from xmltv, collaborative filtering seems
> like one of the few logical ways to go to increase accuracy.
> 
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 02:54:25PM -0500, Kirby Vandivort wrote:
> > > Kinda along the lines of the second paragraph......
> > >
> > > I've been thinking collaborative filtering as I continue to plot
and
> > > plan my 'recommendations' feature for myth....  The collaborative
> > > filtering would come after the basic recommendation feature is in.
> > >
> > > What would people think of an external module that could,
completely
> > > at the user's option, of course...
> > >
> > > Upload info about the shows you have recorded:
> > >
> > > title
> > > subtitle
> > > description
> > > (and possibly other columns that would uniquely identify a show)
> > >
> > > (along with possibly your 'rating' for the show..  say a number
from
> > > 1 to 10 describing how much you like it)
> > >
> > > a unique identifier for you so that your submissions from day X
can
> > > be tracked with your submissions from day X+1.  (this would be
used
> > > to prevent duplicate information being added to the database,
> > > essentially.
> > >
> > > your zip code - (see down below)
> > >
> > >
> > > Then the basic idea behind the collaborative filtering would be
that
> if
> > > other people watch, say, South Park and Crank Yankers, and you
watch
> > > South Park, there's a decent chance that you might like Crank
Yankers
> > > also.
> > >
> > > The zip code could be used for fine tuning results.  For instance,
if
> > > other people in zip codes around yours like watching the local
sports
> > > team play, and other factors match, there's an increased chance
that
> > > you might like the same stuff.
> > >
> > > I would envision this being controlled somewhat like a cron job.
The
> > > submission part wouldn't have to be part of myth at all.  It
could, at
> > > a certain time each morning just access the mysql database,
package
> and
> > > send the info to the dropspot somewhere on the net, and be done
with
> > > it.  While talking to the dropspot, the dropspot could update the
> local
> > > system on shows it might like.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lan Barnes                    lan at falleagle.net
> > Linux Guy, SCM Specialist     858-354-0616
> >
> > The U.S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) reports that more than
2,000
> > school age children 19 or younger take their lives each year in the
> > United States, many citing depression, social cruelty and bullying
and
> > other forms of harassment. That means that many more kids harm
> > themselves as the result of social cruelty than harm other kids.
> >                                    - Jon Katz
> >
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> 
> Kirby Vandivort                      Theoretical and Computational
> Biophysics
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