[mythtv-users] Tunning the System

[Scott Blomfield]

I guess the point is that the developers don't find it to be a problem.
MythTV is all about itches, and developers scratching those itches. That
isn't to say that they never implement things they don't really want
just because other people want them, it is just to say that from what
I've seen, most of what gets implemented is because one of the
developers wants it. (See: CLE266 support, Hardware MPEG encoders,
PVR-350 tv-out).

Personally, I do not find the delay to be a problem. I don't channel
surf any more; I find it counter-intuitive... I surf the program guide.
No matter if the channel is at an ad-break or not, I know what is on on
each channel, and I don't have to wait even 1/10th of a second as with
regular tv to see what is on the next channel.

And I've only been using a PVR for under a week. I hear that after a
while, you don't even *watch* live tv any more, you just watch recorded
content.. I haven't built up enough content to just do that, I guess,
but I'm getting there, and I can see how it is an eventuality.

Perhaps you hadn't looked at it from this perspective?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: papenfuss at juneau.me.vt.edu [mailto:papenfuss at juneau.me.vt.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Tunning the System
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Michael Starks wrote:
> 
> > >As far as I know, there's no way to shorten that delay 
> when changing
> > >channels.
> > 
> > The windows software I got with the PVR-250 takes a 
> different approach.  It
> > sets up the buffer when you actually press pause.  So, when changing
> > channels it's quick, but when pausing live TV there is a 
> 2-4 second delay
> > before the pause.  Personally, I prefer this approach.  I 
> like to channel
> > surf but when I'm pausing something I don't necessarily 
> need instantaneous
> > response.
> > 
> 	This approach doesn't allow you to rewind without 
> actively remembering 
> to "record" the live TV.  Since LiveTV is always encoded 
> currently in mythtv, 
> it's always recorded and accessible via rewind/pause, etc.
> 
> 	I understand both philosophies, but I'm not convinced 
> you can't have 
> both.  I think it's a bit silly to actually watch encoded 
> video when you're 
> watching "live" TV.  Why can't mythtv do either an overlay or 
> *immediate* view 
> of the captured video/audio and *then* pass it along to the 
> encoder?  For 
> instance, xawtv simply spews the data to the screen, without 
> encoding, etc... 
> why not do the same and then encode it as it's being watched 
> as well?  Granted, 
> with this approach you'll have to wait when you hit pause for 
> the encoder to 
> catch up to the real-time video, but that could be an 
> acceptable tradeoff.  I 
> would envision a setting to switch between the two, so if 
> you've got a 
> low-horsepower setup (bttv on celeron, for instance), you can 
> still watch live 
> TV without compromising video quality.  
> 
> 	What am I missing?
> 	
> 	I, personally, find the delay annoying enough to 
> prevent its use as the
> primary tv surfing device.
> 
> -Cory
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