[mythtv-users] Mythmusic food for thought

[Boyd II, Willy]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Wood [mailto:mike at woodsnest.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:58 AM
>To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
>Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Mythmusic food for thought
>
>
>While we're tossing around ideas for MythMusic..... I think 
>the music selection screen could be improved from the standard 
>Tree view as well.  However, my thought would be to use the 
>same type functionality that exists in Myth today for the 
>Program Finder. Start in the left column with the alphabet, 
>Choose a Letter/Number and move right to the list of Artists 
>for that letter.  Then choose an Artist and move right again 
>for a list of Albums.  Choose an album and move right again to 
>choose individual songs.  Of course, anywhere along this path, 
>you would be able to queue things up...so if you wanted 
>everything from a particular artist, you could do that.
>
>Screen size may be a limitation on this however.  The program 
>finder is only 3 columns...Alphabet/Program Name/Time 
>Slots.....where this would have to be 4 columns.... 
>Alphabet/Artist/Album/Track.  So maybe you split the screen 
>and put Alphabet and Artist on the top half...then drop down 
>and pick albums and songs on the bottom half?
>
>Just more MythMusic "food for thought" as the subject implies. 
> I just think this would simplify music selection a bit 
>because with a very large collection of music, scrolling the 
>tree view can get a little tedious.
>

Yes!  This kind of interface gets my vote as well.  How about something like
the way
iTunes works?  In the top half you have Genre/Artist/Album...  Ok so adding
Alphabet
would make it 4, but that should be a narrow column.  And the bottom half is
a list of
tracks, which dynamically changes (Genre "rock" is selected, so all rock
songs... but
then Beatles is selected, so all Beatles songs, etc.).  Given the current
slowdown
the current interface seems to have using the database though, I'm not sure
this would be an improvement.  I'm currently sitting at around 11,000 tracks
and it's a pain to scroll this, even *with* the number keys.  A tree view is
great and all for a file browser, but
for a media player my mind thinks a different categorization should be used
(for instance, my console dvd player will do mp3 discs with a tree view ...
and I find I rarely use it because this just seems cumbersome to me).

- Willy

>Thanks for Listening,
>Mike
>
>
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Mythmusic food for thought
>> From: "Pete's MythTV" <myth at scantech.no-ip.com>
>> Date: Tue, December 02, 2003 6:20 am
>> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>> 
>> I would definitely like to see a music interface where song 
>selection 
>> is done by the numeric keys on the remote.
>> 
>> Have a look at this really simple but excellent jukebox style player 
>> for the windoze platform http://www.jbsim.co.uk/index.php  I 
>use it on 
>> my laptop for
>> to whole family to use.  MythMusic would be wonderful if it had an
>> interface
>> like this.  A single "album" display would probably suit TV best.
>> Unfortunately I'm not a programmer or I would have a go at 
>doing it.  I
>> have
>> emailed the author to see if he would create a version to sit within
>> Myth,
>> but no reply yet.
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
>> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org]On Behalf Of Mark Winder
>> Sent: 02 December 2003 13:00
>> To: Discussion about mythtv
>> Subject: [mythtv-users] Mythmusic food for thought
>> 
>> 
>> I've long had an MP3 set up and although I'm quite new to myth and 
>> quite like MythMusic,
>> It certainly does more than my original set up, in many ways I feel
>> that
>> Mythmusic will prove too cumbersom for my needs.
>> 
>> I mean count the key presses needed to hear a piece of music.
>> 
>> Because it may be of intrest from a design point  of view, 
>(And we do 
>> seem to be discussing Myth ideas at present), this is how my old 
>> system worked.
>> 
>> To hear an album (I have about 150 collections that I call 
>albums) you 
>> enter the album number. The number is in the range
>> 2 to 199
>> then hit the red key (play now) or the green key (queue now)
>> 
>>  To hear a particular song, you hit the album number 
>followed by the 2 
>> digit song number, followed by red or green as before.
>> Fore example track 6 on album 32, you enter  [3] [2] [0] [6] [red]
>> perhaps. For the whole of album 32, you just enter [3] [2] [red]
>> 
>> This system works with xmms and a special lircfile. Also a suite of 
>> special playlists generated by a perl script when I print 
>out the song 
>> list. The
>> printed list of album titles, and individuel songs, is kept as the
>> definative guide for anybody who wants to use the system but in
>> practice
>> I often know the number of the songs I want, and surprisingly so does
>> my
>> girlfriend. (Have to keep moving Sean Paul as otherwise
>> this gets played WAY too much!!).
>> 
>> As a matter of fact the system worked originally with Winamp 
>using an 
>> Irman , and since then I've ported it to lirc (with the irman but 
>> thats not
>> important!)  and XMMS Redhat.
>> 
>> Note that when you get above 199 albums the number scheme needs an
>> update:
>> album 2 would need to be moved thus freeing up space for another 
>> hundred albums. This is coded in the perl script.
>> 
>> Note that one key design feature is that you do not need to have the 
>> TV switched on, indeed there is no point in doing so, it was not 
>> connected in
>> my old system.
>> 
>> Mark Winder
>> mark.winder4 at-sign btinternet.com
>> 
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