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<p>On 12/12/2021 12:37, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12-12-2021 13:20, James wrote:<br>
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<div class="">On 12 Dec 2021, at 8:00 pm, <a
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Before formally
retiring mythweb on RPM Fusion as it doesn't work
with the latest PHP I wanted to confirm that it will
not be updated.<br class="">
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I can't find the reference, but the last statement by
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devs that I recall was that mythweb was considered<br
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depreciated, and that while pull requests would be<br
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considered, do not expect updates/fixes.<br class="">
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And there are no pull requests in the repo for php 8<br
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support (and no one has indicated they are actively<br
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working on it, although who knows if someone is<br
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doing so).<br class="">
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With the (upcoming) v32, it has been stated that the<br
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plan was that a new (internal) replacement will be
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available which includes the equivalent functionality,<br
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which is where I suspect most dev time is going
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An alternative for those that are running newer<br
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distros that use php 8 could be to build your<br
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own php 7 (likely painful) or run a container<br
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with apache and php 7 (lots of recipes out there<br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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like it got closed because of an undisclosed<span
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<a href="https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/issues/63"
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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inline !important;" class="">The hope is to retire
MythWeb and create a new web frontend that as well<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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features of MythWeb and/or WebFrontend it would<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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inline !important;" class="">also incorporate a new
Web Setup stuff allowing the backend to be<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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inline !important;" class="">configured from a browser
or another client that uses the Services API<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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inline !important;" class="">so mythtv-setup can be
removed.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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write the new web backend using Angular that will<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">use the Services API
exclusively and not require direct access to the<span
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Myth protocol.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
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developers familiar with Angular would like to help
out<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br
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in touch :)</span><br class="">
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<div>Some time ago I very rudely described WebFrontend as being
for the mobile phone set.</div>
<div>I too use MythWeb exclusively because it just works.</div>
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<div>I want a tool that does my task, with a minimum of fuss and
without impressing me as to how clever or artisticly talented
the programmers are. If WebFrontend meets those critera then
good else we have a situtation where developer talent is
diluted trying to maintain MythWeb</div>
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in my quick testing from yesterday webfrontend on 31 results in
many crashes. mythweb simply works<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Rudy<br>
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<p>I think I need to clear something up both MythWeb and the current
WebFrontend are depreciated and will be replaced by the new
WebFrontend that will also incorporate the new Web Setup stuff.
Exactly how that will look like and feel like is undecided. It
will likely use Angular and Material but even that is open for
discussion. <br>
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<p>Like I've said before I don't use either, for me it dilutes what
MythTV was originally supposed to be :( . <br>
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<p>All I'm trying to do is to move things along and get devs and
users motivated to work on it. It's hard enough to get people
motivated and the negative vibe from this thread really isn't
going to improve that.</p>
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<p>Paul H. <br>
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