[mythtv] Time to retire mythweb?

Rudy Zijlstra mythtv at grumpydevil.homelinux.org
Sun Dec 12 12:37:46 UTC 2021

On 12-12-2021 13:20, James wrote:
>> On 12 Dec 2021, at 8:00 pm, mythtv-dev-request at mythtv.org 
>> <mailto:mythtv-dev-request at mythtv.org> wrote:
>>>> Before formally retiring mythweb on RPM Fusion as it doesn't work 
>>>> with the latest PHP I wanted to confirm that it will not be updated.
>>> I can't find the reference, but the last statement by the
>>> devs that I recall was that mythweb was considered
>>> depreciated, and that while pull requests would be
>>> considered, do not expect updates/fixes.
>>> And there are no pull requests in the repo for php 8
>>> support (and no one has indicated they are actively
>>> working on it, although who knows if someone is
>>> doing so).
>>> With the (upcoming) v32, it has been stated that the
>>> plan was that a new (internal) replacement will be made
>>> available which includes the equivalent functionality,
>>> which is where I suspect most dev time is going towards.
>>> An alternative for those that are running newer
>>> distros that use php 8 could be to build your
>>> own php 7 (likely painful) or run a container
>>> with apache and php 7 (lots of recipes out there
>>> to do so).
>> There was a PR but looks like it got closed because of an undisclosed
>> issue with it.
>> https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/issues/63 
>> <https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/issues/63>
>> The hope is to retire MythWeb and create a new web frontend that as well
>> as incorporating the features of MythWeb and/or WebFrontend it would
>> also incorporate a new Web Setup stuff allowing the backend to be
>> configured from a browser or another client that uses the Services API
>> so mythtv-setup can be removed.
>> The current plan is to write the new web backend using Angular that will
>> use the Services API exclusively and not require direct access to the
>> MythTV database or the Myth protocol.
>> If there are any developers familiar with Angular would like to help out
>> with this then please get in touch :)
> Some time ago I very rudely described WebFrontend as being for the 
> mobile phone set.
> I too use MythWeb exclusively because it just works.
> I want a tool that does my task, with a minimum of fuss and without 
> impressing me as to how clever or artisticly talented the programmers 
> are. If WebFrontend meets those critera  then good else we have a 
> situtation where developer talent is diluted trying to maintain MythWeb
in my quick testing from yesterday webfrontend on 31 results in many 
crashes. mythweb simply works



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