[mythtv] Ticket #13202: playback doesn't start at begining

[David Engel]

On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 08:06:02AM -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 01/06/2018 08:57 PM, David Engel wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 10:06:46PM +0000, Roger Siddons wrote:
> > > And you would like to disable it as well.
> > > 
> > > Shall I just add a simple setting until we work out where we're going
> > > with this ?
> > I'm usually in the group opposing new settings, but in this case, I
> > suppose yes.
> 
> How about in the Play Group settings ( https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/playgroup.cpp
> )?  Then users can assign play groups (including default) to start at the
> desired time on a per-recording-rule basis.

First, I don't really see this as a good choice for play groups, at
least not for my use cases.

Second, I'd rather not touch the existing play group implementation.
It was a mistake.  The implementation, not the feature.  I have a
better implementation in mind that would allow nearly any playback
setting to be used in a play group.  It's not high on my TODO list,
though, so it won't be happeing any time soon.

> Or, at least make it a live
> setting (that's not buried in the settings pages) that is changed during
> playback and remembered.

So burying it in the OSD menu where it can only be enabled after the
fact and only affects future playback starts is any better?  If you're
proposing that for all applicable playback settings, I can kind of see
it, but would lead to a very bloated OSD menu.

> IMHO, making it another setting just grouped in the
> main/global settings is just a sign of developers not knowing (agreeing)
> what they want the program to do, as opposed to a setting to allow users to
> choose how MythTV works for various different recordings made from various
> channels (like channels that don't care about their "unimportant" shows as

I see it more as different people using MythTV differently and also
that once a feature gets added, it's very difficult to remove.

Personally, I think this default, mythical bookmark behavior is wholly
unintuitive.  I think most reasonable people would expect playback to
start at the start of the recording.  When somebody uses the feature
to jump to 5 minutes from the beginning, is that 5 minutes from the
beginning of the recording or 5 minutes from the scheduled program
time?

My preferred solution would be to make it easier to then jump to the
scheduled program time after playback starts.  I don't think that's
going to happen.  See removing features above.  To me, that pretty
much only leaves the option of a new setting.

David

> long as their sporting events are broadcast in full) and/or on various
> different days (like days with lots of earlier-broadcast sports) that may or
> may not experience delays from the broadcast.
> 
> Note: the Play Group settings include things like the jump/skip amounts and
> initial time stretch.
> 
> Mike
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David Engel
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