[mythtv] MythUI OSD branch and the way forward

[Bill Williamson]

On Tuesday, March 30, 2010, Simon Kenyon <simon at koala.ie> wrote:
> On 29/03/2010 23:12, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:02:49PM +0100, Stuart Auchterlonie wrote:
>
>
> When I bought my perfectly good ATI card, NVidia plain refused to deal
> with anyone in the open source community, nor would they entertain the
> notion of releasing functioning drivers for the linux platform.
>
> As such the open source ATI driver was far better than the nvidia equiv
> and if you really wanted to, ATI had released a functioning driver for
> linux.
>
>
> I have yet to encounter an ATI driver for linux that worked well.
> They recently discontinued supporting the video cards we bought less
> than 2 years ago.  Nvidia still supports the ones we bought 6 years ago
> in their linux drivers, and the nvidia drivers work (the ati ones last
> I fought with them crashed if you didn't explicitly set X to 24 bit in
> the config file, and took the whole machine with it).
>
> So they are promising open source support for drivers.  Until I see open
> source drivers written by the community (ATI has proven to be incompetent
> at it after all), I still won't care.  It is a shame though given ATI
> clearly makes very reliable video cards, accompanied by awful drivers.
>
>
>
> Oh how the times have changed. 6 months or so after that time nvidia
> changed their tune, and i would have been better off buying an nvidia
> card. On the bright side, ATI have now released the programming specs
> for cards of my era, and apparently even have a dev working on the open
> source driver. Thus the drivers for that are coming on rapidly and now
> actually have decently functioning GL.
>
>
> I switched to nvidia when ATI stopped supporting a 2 year old top of
> the line card after promising to fix known bugs in the driver.  That was
> 12 years ago.  Nvidia has never done anything like that.  They do
> eventually move cards to legacy series of drivers, but even then keep
> maintaining those as needed for years.
>
>
>
> The intel based video card in my main frontend is however a different
> story.....
>
>
> Well intel's are tricky.  Many have excellent support, and some have none.
> Their performance has never been that great though.
>
> I would love an open source openGL driver for linux, but until I see
> one, I will keep buying what has working drivers, and so far that's
> only nvidia.
>
>
>
> the issue for me is that nvidia have left the chipset business - so no more motherboards with integrated nvidia graphics.
> intel make their own chipsets - but the performance for graphics is not very good
> amd own ati - so ati (for the forseeable future) will be the only option for decent integrated graphics
>
> the only machines that i posess that have cards in them are my backends. i do not want to have to add graphics cards to frontends
> hence my interest in ati - nothing religious - just practical considerations
> --
> simon
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what makes you think they're ditching integrated? Ion2 isn't even ga yet...