[mythtv] [OS X] Running mythfrontend on apple tv - working

Todd Ignasiak ignasiak at gmail.com
Wed May 16 01:04:24 UTC 2007


On 5/15/07, Neil Raymond <neil_raymond at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Todd
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I've actually got it working quite well now, the previous reply from James
> Mulcahy pointed me in the right direction. I had a look at the fonts
> installed on the AppleTV and compared them to those on my Macbook, and there
> were a whole load more on the Macbook (unsurprisingly). I backed up the font
> directories on the AppleTV and then copied all the fonts from my Macbook
> over to the AppleTV. I repeated this for the 3 main font directories
> (/System/Library/Fonts, /Library/Fonts and ~/Library/Fonts). It probably
> wasn't necessary to do all 3 locations, at some point I'll go back and work
> out exactly what is and isn't needed.

That's great news!     I'll definitely be picking one of these up.

Have you looked at how much it stresses the AppleTV?  Things like the
memory utilization/swapping when it's running.  Or, CPU load when
playing SD MPEG2?

> I then killed the Finder by disabling the watchdog and renaming Finder.app,
> and ran MythFrontend from the ssh session. All seems to be well - I can
> watch live tv, watch recording etc.
>
> It plays SD material fine, I'm connecting to a backend that's recording
> DVB-T broadcasts. I don't have access to any any HD material other than the
> BBC HD trial that is running at the moment, but that's broadcast in
> H.264/MPEG4 AVC and there's no way the AppleTV could decode it. If someone
> could point me to some HD trailers that can be legally downloaded I could
> give some feedback on HD capabilities.

I'll give HD a try as soon as I get an AppleTV and set it up.   It
will be interesting to see what resolution it can keep up with for
MPEG2.   It might be able to do something close to 720p, and HD
content could be transcoded to that level.

Also, the Mac OS X MPEG2 acceleration APIs offer an outside chance of
HD support, if they get to the point where they're usable/stable.
As far as I know, they are not their yet, but I haven't tried that
code myself.

> The only problem that I've got now is some slight overscan. I'm using the
> HDMI connection at 720p resolution, but for some reason the myth display
> still extends off the side of the screen. I'm hoping that manually setting
> the display size in the setup will fix this.
>
> Other than that it's quite usable. It takes 3 or 4 seconds to begin playback
> of a recording, but once it's playing it's fine. Skipping forward/backward
> takes <1s. My backend is running on fairly low powered hardware (VIA EPIA
> EN12000G) so that might not be helping. The only other niggle is the lack of
> buttons on the remote, but there's nothing I can do about that.

Yeah, the Apple remote is limited.  But, with some remapping of keys
it could be provide the most common inputs.
Also, you mentioned above you have a MacBook,  you could use a network
control app on that to  control the things you can't map to the remote
 (e.g.  http://ignasiak.googlepages.com/mythremote )


> >From: "Todd Ignasiak" <ignasiak at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev at mythtv.org>
> >To: "Development of mythtv" <mythtv-dev at mythtv.org>
> >Subject: Re: [mythtv] [OS X] Running mythfrontend on apple tv
> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:56:31 -0400
> >
> >On 5/13/07, Neil Raymond <neil_raymond at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I'm trying to run mythfrontend on my appletv, using a plugin that
> >someone
> > > has created to allow you to run any application from within the appletv
> > > finder. I can successfully run VLC and other applications using this
> >method,
> > > by when I try and run mythfrontend it just crashes and returns me to the
> >atv
> > > finder. I tried both pre-built 0.20.1 binaries and also compiling them
> > > myself from using osx-packager.pl from the 0.20.1 svn tag. I compiled
> >them
> > > on my Macbook which is running OS X 10.4.9.
> > >
> > > Has anyone else tried this? Or does anyone have any ideads about how I
> >could
> > > get this working? It would be a really nice, (fairly) cheap front end if
> > > this could be done. I've already open the atv up so I'm quite happy to
> >try
> > > anything that might get this running. If it's just a case of copying
> >some
> > > frameworks across or something like that it'd be great.
> > >
> > > Here is the crash report:
> > >
> > > **********
> > >
> > > Host Name:      AppleTV
> > > Date/Time:      2007-05-13 00:00:51.658 +0200
> > > OS Version:     10.4.7 (Build 8N5107)
> > > Report Version: 4
> > >
> > > Command: mythfrontend
> > > Path:    /Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS/mythfrontend
> > > Parent:  Finder [181]
> > >
> > > Version: 0.20.0.svn20070331 (0.20.0.svn20070331)
> > >
> > > PID:    189
> > > Thread: 0
> > >
> > > Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
> > > Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c
> > >
> > > Thread 0 Crashed:
> > > 0   qt-mt       0xb2050911 qt_macFamilyName(QString const&) + 141
> > > 1   qt-mt       0xb202b7f3 QFontPrivate::load(QFont::Script) + 1027
> > > 2   qt-mt       0xb204bac3 QFont::exactMatch() const + 53
> >
> >I got a very similar crash when initially trying to get MythFrontend
> >running on Mac OS X x86.    The resolution to that was to upgrade to a
> >newer version of Qt (3.3.6 at that point) which presumably had been
> >updated to be x86 aware.
> >
> >Looking at the method name, qt_macFamilyName, it might be trying to
> >figure out what type of Mac it's running on, to adjust some
> >parameters.   It's not gonna know about AppleTV.. could take some
> >hacking of Qt, to equate AppleTV to Mac OS X x86.
> >
> >
> >
> >I have been hesitating picking up an AppleTV, because I don't think it
> >will be able to handle HD.  But, for DVD playback, and SD playback (or
> >transcoded HD) it could still be useful.   Maybe I'll grab one when I
> >return the UPnP-HD device I was trying out.
> >
> >
> > > Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
> > >   eax: 0x00000000    ebx: 0xb2050892 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x0063ca80
> > >   edi: 0xbfffeedc    esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffeef8 esp: 0xbfffeec0
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> > > 0xc6000000 - 0xc61c1fff myth
> > >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/myth.framework/Versions/A/myth
> > > 0xc9000000 - 0xc9533fff mythtv
> > >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythtv.framework/Versions/A/mythtv
> > > 0xcc000000 - 0xcc066fff mythui
> > >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythui.framework/Versions/A/mythui
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
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