[mythtv] Request: MythHelp

usleepless at gmail.com usleepless at gmail.com
Wed Feb 7 08:33:03 UTC 2007

Chris, List,

On 2/7/07, Chris Pinkham <cpinkham at bc2va.org> wrote:
> * On Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 10:41:19PM +0100, usleepless at gmail.com wrote:
> > he is just informing if someone has looked into at it already.
> This isn't the first time.  It's becoming a bit annoying to me as well.
> Maybe I'm a bit sensitive since I'm one of the developers, but to have
> someone keep coming onto the -dev and -users list asking questions to
> support his business is a bit annoying.

i believe that feeling is called "envy". and it is just in your head:
the guy isn't  making any money yet, but still is putting time and
resources into entering his perceived market.

> This quote is from one of his other recent posts:
>   "So who can I work with to get this going once they start the
>    data streams.."
> Maybe something is getting lost in the translation or something, but
> with comments like that, it isn't hard to see why Isaac and others
> (myself included) would have a little bit of an attitude.

well i can't see it, but i recognize the "attitude".

> Sometimes
> it seems like the MythTV mailing lists are being used as their second
> or third tier of tech support for his business.
> > jeez. give the guy a break / a chance.
> It's a pattern, search for his posts in the mailing list archives.  He's
> come in several times asking questions in support of or wanting features
> for his business/customers.

yes yes. i recognize a pattern as well. a pattern of "hostile developers".

> > just what i would have expected though. do you think this is a
> > positive/inspiring attitude? read in.
> If someone is making money off of Myth, they can hire their own tech
> support and developers.  Coming onto the MythTV developers mailing list
> and asking who is going to help implement some new feature to help his
> business is a bit presumptuous and arrogant.

so mythtv is free for anyone to take, but beware: if you strive to
make it any better based on customer requests, you are hosed.

you are aware that proper system development requires listening to
your end-users input?

> Regarding this thread, one would hope that the "Technical Director" of a
> business selling Myth boxes would have heard of the keys.txt file to know
> about the F1 key, but I guess not.  No, it's not implemented everywhere,
> and won't be till someone steps up to the plate to take care of it, but
> coming onto the -dev list and essentially asking for is a bit annoying.
> The subject is "Request: MythHelp", not "Idea: MythHelp" or similar.

well, it was a request. a request of his end-users. he is bringing it
to the table. what is your problem?

so to sum it up: you are blaming this guy of exactly the thing i blame
you guys: arrogance.

it wouldn't be so bad if you guys actually knew proper database design and ipc.

instead time is wasted on "hickups" because a lousy database is used,
with a lousy schema. threads are created to work around the problems
that arise. ipc is done with ordinary variables and busywait loops (
while(!done) usleep(50); is just a context-switch banger ). calling
query.isActive() && query.size()>0 && query.next() is just plain

i refrained myself from contributing due to this "attitude". i know i
am not alone on this one.

ask yourself how this "attitude" is helpfull.



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