[mythtv] [mythtv-commits] Ticket #1635: LiveTV uses UP to go up the channel list, Guide uses DOWN.

[Steven Adeff]

On 4/7/06, f-myth-users at media.mit.edu <f-myth-users at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> This entire discussion has reminded me of an incident a long time ago,
> when I introduced a guy who'd been running a milling machine for 30
> years to a then-new Mac Classic or equivalent.
>
> I gave him the mouse, he rolled it a bit, and said, "Whoa!" and
> stopped.  Then he thought a moment, -rotated the mouse 180 degrees-
> so the cord pointed towards him, rolled it again, and said, "Ah,
> that's much better."
>
> See, he was used to moving the -workpiece-, and not the -tool-...
>
> Similar problems wrt whether you think you're moving a "desktop"
> in a virtual window, or sliding the window around over a stationary
> desktop.  They're both perfectly valid ways of thinking about the
> interaction.
>
> I have no particular opinion on the up/down issue here, except to say
> that it'd probably be nice if the buttons could be decoupled in the
> various modes so Greg could at least reconfigure his version to work
> the way he expects.
>
> There are certainly plenty of other similarly confusing areas in
> Myth's UI.  One that gets me every time is trying to do a manual
> schedule through the frontend (not MythWeb) where the cursor keys seem
> to work totally wrong half the time.  After all, every field has an
> arrow pointing DOWN, just like any reasonable pulldown menu would, but
> DOWN goes to the NEXT menu item instead of changing the current one.
>
> Even worse, the hour-of-day and duration "pulldowns" are laid out
> ACROSS the screen.  So I look at a menu item, think "down" to increase
> the number, and wind up sliding across.  And because I'm alternately
> sliding across or down just to get to the next item, the sense of what
> to do changes back and then back -again- as I navigate through the
> screen.  So half the time I try to recover, I wind up changing the
> next item while trying to get back to where I was ("whoops, I'm on
> the wrong item, gotta slide left---oops").  I've been using this
> for months and I -still- blow it a substantial fraction of the time.

that gets me every time as well. Aren't those input box arrows from
the QT theme? I always attributed that to their "improper" direction.

I'd love to know how the new mfe is coming along, mostly to see if we
can solve these UI issues before it gets to it, and if its still a
long ways away, maybe its worth taking the time to rework the current
frontend UI?

--
Steve