[mythtv] 'stable' tag proposal
Jay R. Ashworth
jra at baylink.com
Tue Mar 22 14:42:45 UTC 2005
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:23:35PM -0500, andrew burke wrote:
> > Screw the users. They're getting a *lot* of *really sweet* code FOR
> > FREE. They didn't have to pay Isaac or, in general, anyone else, *any
> > money* for what they got. And they were made aware that the code is
> > prerelease -- if in no other fashion, by the version number.
>
> yes, we all understand open source.
Clearly, no, you don't.
> > There's an etiquette for situations like this, andrew, and you're not
> > helping by encouraging those who fail to apply it. If you're not happy
> > with the development model, then go ahead and fork the damn thing.
>
> Look, it's common courtesy to bring up issues I have before I go and just
> fork the code. Forking a project can often cause lots of bad blood and
> problems. I do appreciate what all the devs have put together, I just
> think that things can be handled a bit differently to improve the end-user
> experience. I never said what the developers have done isn't worthwhile,
> but I do take issue with the way the project is being managed. I offered
> to help improve that situation numerous times, and the devs seem to have
> decided it isn't help they're interested in, and that's their choice. But
> personally, I know I would be upset if someone forked a project I started
> without at least raising the issues they had for doing so.
Fine. And, like me, you sit in a difficult seat: the reason you want
to fork the project is not the traditional "I've written a ton of
patches, and everyone's using them and loves them, but the maintainer
won't commit them", and it's much harder to get traction for a fork
that way.
But, you know, there are larger issues at hand here.
I used to do Rocky Horror when I was (much :-) younger. And you know
what the biggest problem was that we had? It wasn't cast politics.
Oh, no. It was *not letting cast politics dribble out and screw up our
theater relationship.*
MythTV does not exist in a vacuum here, and that not-a-vacuum is
getting larger every day. IME, the number of people who *are*
unsatisfied with the way things are going -- leaving out for a moment
the question of whether anyone at all has any *right* to be
unsatisfied -- is not all that big.
Are there some "problems"? Maybe.
Do you have some solutions? Probably.
Is your approach likely to be strategically productive? I don't think
so. And *I've* been in this business for 20 years too; you may not
think I'm entitled to hold opinions on it, but I sure do.
Cheers,
-- jra
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