[mythtv] DVB Channel Changes

Tako Schotanus quintesse at palacio-cristal.com
Wed Apr 14 18:36:30 EDT 2004

Just a short answer to you personally because it's no use continuing 
this discussion on the list anyway ;-)

Ben Bucksch wrote:

> Tako Schotanus wrote:
>> Ramon could have made mplayer optional, that would have been
>> usefull for people that don't need or want the functionality it offers,
>> but why?
> Exactly because it "would have been usefull for people that don't need 
> or want the functionality" that mplayer offers (finetuning), but who 
> need the rest of MythChannels' functionality (general channel setup, 
> import etc.).
> Having code that knowingly breaks, even for a significant number of 
> people, just leads to crap quality, step by step.
I understand more or less what you're trying to say, but you have to 
admit that there's a lot of code in MythTV that is written because the 
people writing it wanted it that way and don't give too much if it's 
always useful for others. If I only look at the functionality, not the 
code quality of Ramon's work I could say that he wrote it just for 
himself and people in his situation. But you could probably say the same 
for other modules?

For me it wouldn't be strange to say: ok, so _I_ make this which is 
useful to me and 20% of other myth users and if somebody sees a way to 
make it useful for 60% of the users, ok fine, let _them_ do the other 
40%. Requiring that _he_ makes it useful for the other 40% just doesn't 
seem fair.

But then again, you said it also broke stuff and that shouldn't happen 
of course.

Just to be certain: I'm just talking functionality here, not any of the 
other internal problems with code quality and such.

>> MythChannels was an optional module
> And that's what it still is, not? If it's just to be an optional 
> module for a few people, Ramon would have been free to put it on 
> sf.net, berlios.de or whereever and have people install it separately. 
> We were discussing to have it in MythTV's default installation, that's 
> when it gets useful for a large number of people, but then it should 
> also *work* for them.

But that's just it, there's lots of stuff in MythTV and CVS that's _not_ 
useful for a large number of people, but it's still there and as long as 
it is in the main CVS repository there might still be the hope that you 
could find a maintainer for it even if it was just the occasional fix 
(MythVideo? MythGallery? MythGames? MythDVD? Even MythMusic hasn't 
changed much lately (probably waiting for Thor to finish his stuff ;-)).

> Oh, well, what are we discussing. As long as there's no maintainer 
> willing to pick it up, it's fruitless to argue about could-be, 
> would-have-been.
True, the same as wishing for more hours in a day so I could take a look 
at it myself :-)
Still waiting to find time to finally extend the damn LCD support in 
MythTV ;-)


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