[mythtv] Dual tuner card

Larry Matter mythtv at matter.net
Thu Jan 23 21:05:57 EST 2003 

So, can you ask them to support a no-sound-card-required solution (like
btaudio)?

Thanks,
Larry



> Sorry, no word on when the dual card is coming out.  All I know is that
> they have a prototype but I have not seen it.  I would love to have one
> also.
>
> MythTV with Dual tuner picture in picture?  SWEET!!  I will keep you
> posted if I hear anything else.
>
> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 11:16, Risto Treksler wrote:
>> So when can I expect to be able to buy a dual tuner card that will
>> work in  linux?
>>
>>
>> I will build a MythTV System soon for devel purposes.
>> I am looking into the barebones formfactor (ie Shuttle) which has a
>> max of 2  PCI slots so a dual tuner card is almost key to have.
>>
>> PS
>>
>> On Thursday 23 January 2003 11:41 am, Micah Morton wrote:
>> > Honest? I was told that LindowsOS was closed source. As were all of
>> its utilities (including Click'n'Run). However, what you are saying
>> is that click'n'run may be available for other distro's as well?  If
>> so, that would be incredible!  I would love to tell people that my
>> mother uses linux. :)
>>
>> My mother does run linux ;)
>> Mandrake 7.2 at that
>>
>> It is adequate for web and e-mail on a P200 with 128MB EDO RAM
>> It did take a LOT of tweaking (by me) to make it useable.
>> It's got icewm, dfm, netscape, kmail, xmms, kmidi, staroffice 5.1, but
>> it does  the job and is very stable.
>>
>> There is however no hope of her changing anything on the system
>> herself I have to ssh in and make the changes.
>>
>> So the barrier here, really is :
>> how to make it easy for new users to install manage and update a
>> system.
>>
>>
>> Sorry for being off topic with this post
>>
>> > I've made the switch, but I would LOVE to see more people do the
>> same. Takes a lot of tweaking to get a linux desktop just the way
>> you like it. If you can eliminate the tweaking factor, it would be a
>> very ideal desktop. We need more games too. :)
>>
>> Eliminating the tweaking factor
>> is the whole idea behind a distribution
>>
>> sure you could roll your own linux, but you gotta tweak a lot
>> when you buy a sony laptop you get a "sony distribution of windows"
>> lots of preinstalled software and lots of tweaked settings
>> wipe this laptop clean and put stock windows on it
>> it will take you a week to install drivers for all the unknown devices
>> and  such.
>>
>> The key to a good distribution then is getting the default settings
>> right and  like you said eliminating the tweaking (like not having to
>> learn how to make  desktop icons, and to associate filetypes with
>> programs or having to set up  browser plugins), otherwise what's the
>> point behind making a distribution.
>>
>> >
>> > --Micah Morton
>> > --Linux Network Test Engineer
>> > --Intel Corp
>> >
>> > > LindowsOS is Open Source and GPL and as such, I believe the source
>> code will be made available according to the GPL.
>>
>> It makes sense to have the distribution specific things non GPL
>> like YaST for SuSE and Click'N'Run for Lindows
>>
>> but all drivers and such should be GPL
>>
>> > >The real value in
>> > > LindowsOS is not the OS itself but rather the simplicity of the
>> Click N Run agent .  Non techie users (i.e. my mom, etc) would not
>> even dream of apt-get or rpm -i anything via konsole and I would
>> not want them to as it would be a support nightmare (it is bad
>> enough helping her with Microsoft Windows).  With the Click N Run
>> Warehouse, you can select what application you want and simply
>> click on it and it installs, creates start menu icons and / or
>> desktop icons and you are all set.  Say you want Star Office,
>> click on it and it installs.  No need  to apt-get, rpm -i, sh
>> installer.sh, etc.
>> > >
>> > > This will surely push Linux to the desktop as it will not be so
>> scary for first time users.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 09:57, Micah Morton wrote:
>> > >> Interesting - I have a couple questions though. Once conexant
>> releases a driver for linux, will it be only for lindowsOS? or
>> will it be released for all linux variants?  I'm concerned about
>> this because although I have nothing against lindowsOS and
>> actually thing its pretty awesome, I feel dirty paying for closed
>> source software. So, I may switch to lindows down the line, but
>> for now, mandrake/debian will have to do.
>> > >>
>> > >> Also, the other drivers developed for lindows... will they too be
>> lindows only? or will the driver make its way to the linux market
>> via open source?
>> > >>  Any info is GREATLY appreciated!
>> > >>
>> > >> Let the year of the linux desktop begin!
>> > >>
>> > >> --Micah Morton
>> > >> --Linux Network Test Engineer
>> > >> --Intel Corp
>> > >>
>> > >> > Actually, I have had the head of driver development for
>> Conexant in
>> > >>
>> > >> my office all week working on the linux driver with our engineers
>> (not a "rep").  We should have a driver for the 23880/1 chip
>> ready in a few weeks.  I have already gotten it to work with
>> 2.4.20 kernel and we are working out a few bugs.
>> > >>
>> > >> > You have to remember, this is the year of the "Linux Desktop".
>> > >>
>> > >> Everyone is in a mad scramble to catch up with the growing demand
>> for linux on the desktop.  As our company is at the forefront of
>> the Linux Desktop movement, I see the the demand for drivers
>> first hand.
>> > >>  Almost on a daily basis, I get calls from various hardware and
>> chip
>> > >> makers and vendors looking to develop or have us develop linux
>> drivers for their product.  Conexant happens to be one that
>> contacted us and is urgently looking to get out a linux driver
>> for their latest chipset.
>> > >>
>> > >> > I will keep you posted and as I love the MythTV project, I will
>> make
>> > >>
>> > >> sure that you guys are the first to know when we release the
>> Conexant driver for the 23880/1 chipset.
>> > >>
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Merle Reine <merle.reine at lindows.com>
>> > >> > Lindows.com Hardware Certification
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 19:52, Bruce Markey wrote:
>> > >> >> tarek Lubani wrote:
>> > >> >> > I don't for a moment believe that's genuine naivete...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Busted ;-) I wanted Merle to think about how empty that
>> > >> >> non-promise is. In fact, my interpretation is that he was told
>> "no" and didn't understand. "That should be possible", "we're
>> currently exploring that", "this is on our list of future
>> enhancments", "blah, blah, future release", and
>> > >> >> "this is a priority" are all polite ways for customers
>> > >> >> reps to say "no" and let the customer believe whatever
>> > >> >> they'd like without making any promises.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --  bjm
>> > >> >>
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