[mythtv] Dual tuner card

Merle Reine merle.reine at lindows.com
Thu Jan 23 11:20:45 EST 2003 

Sorry, no word on when the dual card is coming out.  All I know is that
they have a prototype but I have not seen it.  I would love to have one
also. 

MythTV with Dual tuner picture in picture?  SWEET!!  I will keep you
posted if I hear anything else.

On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 11:16, Risto Treksler wrote:
> So when can I expect to be able to buy a dual tuner card that will work in 
> linux?
> 
> 
> I will build a MythTV System soon for devel purposes.
> I am looking into the barebones formfactor (ie Shuttle) which has a max of 2 
> PCI slots so a dual tuner card is almost key to have.
> 
> PS
> 
> On Thursday 23 January 2003 11:41 am, Micah Morton wrote:
> > Honest? I was told that LindowsOS was closed source. As were all of its
> > utilities (including Click'n'Run). However, what you are saying is that
> > click'n'run may be available for other distro's as well?  If so, that
> > would be incredible!  I would love to tell people that my mother uses
> > linux. :)
> 
> My mother does run linux ;)
> Mandrake 7.2 at that
> 
> It is adequate for web and e-mail on a P200 with 128MB EDO RAM
> It did take a LOT of tweaking (by me) to make it useable.
> It's got icewm, dfm, netscape, kmail, xmms, kmidi, staroffice 5.1, but it does 
> the job and is very stable.
> 
> There is however no hope of her changing anything on the system herself
> I have to ssh in and make the changes.
> 
> So the barrier here, really is :
> how to make it easy for new users to install manage and update a system.
> 
> 
> Sorry for being off topic with this post
> 
> > I've made the switch, but I would LOVE to see more people do the
> > same. Takes a lot of tweaking to get a linux desktop just the way you like
> > it. If you can eliminate the tweaking factor, it would be a very ideal
> > desktop. We need more games too. :)
> 
> Eliminating the tweaking factor
> is the whole idea behind a distribution
> 
> sure you could roll your own linux, but you gotta tweak a lot
> when you buy a sony laptop you get a "sony distribution of windows"
> lots of preinstalled software and lots of tweaked settings
> wipe this laptop clean and put stock windows on it
> it will take you a week to install drivers for all the unknown devices and 
> such.
> 
> The key to a good distribution then is getting the default settings right and 
> like you said eliminating the tweaking (like not having to learn how to make 
> desktop icons, and to associate filetypes with programs or having to set up 
> browser plugins), otherwise what's the point behind making a distribution.
> 
> >
> > --Micah Morton
> > --Linux Network Test Engineer
> > --Intel Corp
> >
> > > LindowsOS is Open Source and GPL and as such, I believe the source code
> > > will be made available according to the GPL.  
> 
> It makes sense to have the distribution specific things non GPL
> like YaST for SuSE and Click'N'Run for Lindows
> 
> but all drivers and such should be GPL
> 
> > >The real value in
> > > LindowsOS is not the OS itself but rather the simplicity of the Click N
> > > Run agent .  Non techie users (i.e. my mom, etc) would not even dream of
> > > apt-get or rpm -i anything via konsole and I would not want them to as
> > > it would be a support nightmare (it is bad enough helping her with
> > > Microsoft Windows).  With the Click N Run Warehouse, you can select what
> > > application you want and simply click on it and it installs, creates
> > > start menu icons and / or desktop icons and you are all set.  Say you
> > > want Star Office, click on it and it installs.  No need  to apt-get, rpm
> > > -i, sh installer.sh, etc.
> > >
> > > This will surely push Linux to the desktop as it will not be so scary
> > > for first time users.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 09:57, Micah Morton wrote:
> > >> Interesting - I have a couple questions though. Once conexant releases
> > >> a driver for linux, will it be only for lindowsOS? or will it be
> > >> released for all linux variants?  I'm concerned about this because
> > >> although I have nothing against lindowsOS and actually thing its
> > >> pretty awesome, I feel dirty paying for closed source software. So, I
> > >> may switch to lindows down the line, but for now, mandrake/debian will
> > >> have to do.
> > >>
> > >> Also, the other drivers developed for lindows... will they too be
> > >> lindows only? or will the driver make its way to the linux market via
> > >> open source?
> > >>  Any info is GREATLY appreciated!
> > >>
> > >> Let the year of the linux desktop begin!
> > >>
> > >> --Micah Morton
> > >> --Linux Network Test Engineer
> > >> --Intel Corp
> > >>
> > >> > Actually, I have had the head of driver development for Conexant in
> > >>
> > >> my office all week working on the linux driver with our engineers
> > >> (not a "rep").  We should have a driver for the 23880/1 chip ready
> > >> in a few weeks.  I have already gotten it to work with 2.4.20 kernel
> > >> and we are working out a few bugs.
> > >>
> > >> > You have to remember, this is the year of the "Linux Desktop".
> > >>
> > >> Everyone is in a mad scramble to catch up with the growing demand
> > >> for linux on the desktop.  As our company is at the forefront of the
> > >> Linux Desktop movement, I see the the demand for drivers first hand.
> > >>  Almost on a daily basis, I get calls from various hardware and chip
> > >> makers and vendors looking to develop or have us develop linux
> > >> drivers for their product.  Conexant happens to be one that
> > >> contacted us and is urgently looking to get out a linux driver for
> > >> their latest chipset.
> > >>
> > >> > I will keep you posted and as I love the MythTV project, I will make
> > >>
> > >> sure that you guys are the first to know when we release the
> > >> Conexant driver for the 23880/1 chipset.
> > >>
> > >> > --
> > >> > Merle Reine <merle.reine at lindows.com>
> > >> > Lindows.com Hardware Certification
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 19:52, Bruce Markey wrote:
> > >> >> tarek Lubani wrote:
> > >> >> > I don't for a moment believe that's genuine naivete...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Busted ;-) I wanted Merle to think about how empty that
> > >> >> non-promise is. In fact, my interpretation is that he was
> > >> >> told "no" and didn't understand. "That should be possible",
> > >> >> "we're currently exploring that", "this is on our list of
> > >> >> future enhancments", "blah, blah, future release", and
> > >> >> "this is a priority" are all polite ways for customers
> > >> >> reps to say "no" and let the customer believe whatever
> > >> >> they'd like without making any promises.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --  bjm
> > >> >>
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