[mythtv] Re: Closed caption support

Dan Schwarz mythtv-dev@snowman.net
Fri Jan 3 17:44:42 EST 2003


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Gregorio Gervasio, Jr. wrote:

>        I'm not too knowledgeable about this so what's the "right"
>way to add CC to mythtv anyway?  At a minimum, I would think the
>following are needed:
>
>VBI decoder -- There seem to be a few decoders floating around.
>Any opinions on what's the best one to start with?
>  
>
I've been studying ccdecoder by Mike Baker. It seems to have disappeared 
from the web so I've attached a copy here. You run this program in a 
terminal when you're watching xawtv and it will decode the vbi data and 
display it for you.

It's GPL'ed and includes support for standard closed captions, XDS 
(current channel and program info, V-chip ratings) and WebTV data. The 
closed caption protocols are quite convoluted and this code doesn't do 
anything to simplify matters, but the code is a good starting point for 
anyone who wants to add this support into mythTV.  I have no idea if 
this code is at all related to the previous ntsc-cc.c  code that was 
posted to the list.

>file encoder -- Are there some standard formats for storing CC data
>streams?  I notice NuppelVideo allows for text blocks but it doesn't
>look like anyone uses it.  There was also some discussion in the
>list archives about being able to do string searches.
>  
>
I'd be very happy if this was added.  To do a proper job you want to 
store all the metadata that goes along with the text (i.e. caption type 
and position, text attributes,etc.) You would want to store XDS data 
separately from caption text. String search capability would be 
terrific.  I can imagine watching my favorite news program and typing  
/weather to skip forward to the weather broadcast :-)

>display -- I suppose Tivo boxes add the CC stream back to the TV
>output for the TV hardware to decode but that seems like more trouble
>than it's worth.  (Is it even feasible through most video cards or
>VGA->NTSC converters?).  Anyway, mythtv needs the ability to overlay
>the CC display itself for people not using TV output.
>  
>
OSD could be used to do this.  I'm not sure if the TV-out video cards 
can be programmed to emit line 21 data, but it'd be nice to have the 
option for cards that support it.  Me, I'm running with a VGA-to-NTSC 
converter, so I'm definitely out of luck.


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